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Post by wacker on Dec 13, 2011 14:23:22 GMT
sidt. how can a push from you leave you both soaking in the waters edge .when you were stud between him and the keep net back to the water. what was the bailiff doing while you were getting to your feet. your account seems far from factual . the fish you were protecting are not your property. and were more at risk from you than the bailiff. shame the delegates could not read between the lines of your account.; can the bailiff appeal to the out of touch delegates. to get a 10yrs ban do you have to kill a club official. as for the polygraph test they do not use them in court for a reason. for those of you who have not already . google how to beat polygraph test.
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Post by gedthespread on Dec 13, 2011 18:52:26 GMT
sid,since you are concerned so much with facts,then consider this, at approximately 9 am on the morning of the incident,an passing angler helped you to land a large tench which had become tangled in the line of your other rod.After weighing the tench,he offered to take a photo of it for you.You declined this offer and told him that you were going to put it in the keepnet with the other two tench that you already had.Just to make it clear,that's 9 am-3 tench.It was almost 10pm when i asked you if you thought it might be a good idea to release them,you told me that you had 5 tench by then and that you were going to keep them all night to take a photo the next morning-that makes it 10pm-5 tench,3 of which had been retained for 13 hours minimum,the other 2 you said were caught that afternoon.Now this means that if you were to carry out your plan and photograph those fish at,say 8am next day,that means that you would have had those fish in a keepnet for almost 24 hours,totally unacceptable and the reason why i ASKED you to return them. Something else you may like to consider-4 anglers were fishing on the botany next to the road that night,and although it was dark,they could hear our conversation quite clearly,so you are wrong if you think that its your word against mine.Finally,the account of events you have given in this forum bear no resemblance to the account that you gave to the delegates as defence for your actions,where you insist that i assaulted you.Also the statement that you gave to the police when you tried to get me arrested[almost 2 weeks after the event]was read to me whilst i was questioned, and also stated that it was i that assaulted you-not what you have just said on this forum - if you want to distort the truth then at least be consistent.
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Post by wrighty29 on Dec 18, 2011 17:05:38 GMT
i have fished this place for the last few years and know that without ged the place would not be what it is today without his hard work so for a group of delegates who have probably never even seen the place or know of the full account to reduce a ban that was given is ust stupid. come on leeds back your baillifs or you will soon have non because they cant be bothered with the hassle and lack of support
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Post by az on Dec 26, 2011 10:38:55 GMT
Sid, tha's full of it, Geds the baliff and a good one too. Tha could have killed them fish, and with my account there isnt many more tench in the whole lake as to what you retained in that crappy net. tha needs to be made an example of thats why tha's got banned. tha should ave worked with ged not against him. Ged keep up the good work and keep on trying for the place.
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Post by breamboy on Dec 27, 2011 19:32:57 GMT
The bailiffs decisions/actions should be backed 100% by the club. Otherwise it might as well be some sort of free for all. Having a bunch of people who most of them probably don't even know where the lake is over rule decisions is a disgrace. It not only makes a mockery of the bailiffs but also the committee as a whole.
The club will end up with people not wanting to bailiff if this is how they get treated.
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Post by gedthespread on Jan 5, 2012 10:13:22 GMT
polygraph test!
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Post by adi on Jan 20, 2012 17:01:37 GMT
how about the jeremy kyle show....
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Post by committeemember on Aug 7, 2012 13:08:21 GMT
I'm new to this forum but I know of this case. No way on god's green earth should this ban have been overturned! It's no way to support the hardworking Baliffs, these people do this job not for money but for the love of their sport. Shame on you delegates!!!
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Post by gedthespread on Aug 13, 2012 8:54:08 GMT
Still waiting to hear from jeremy kyle bout that polygraph test,got me shellsuit pressed ready and a new burberry baseball cap!
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Post by committeemember on Aug 13, 2012 10:42:35 GMT
Summat gives me feeling you'll be waiting a real long time Ged!
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Post by gedthespread on Aug 13, 2012 12:01:28 GMT
Lets not forget what this issue is all about-it seems to be overshadowed by the delegates decision
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Post by committeemember on Aug 13, 2012 12:06:15 GMT
I agree Ged but the Delegates made a mockery of the issue! Violence should not be tolerated at any cost! Especially as you was only doing your job!
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Post by phil on Aug 13, 2012 15:26:17 GMT
Still waiting to hear from jeremy kyle bout that polygraph test,got me shellsuit pressed ready and a new burberry baseball cap! Thats not chavi enough to get on that show Ged, you have to have matching Gucci hat and trainers now! LOL...
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Post by cocopops on Aug 14, 2012 8:32:47 GMT
courts can only make a ban in court of no more that 5 years and this im sure though may be wrong is only after a first conviction,otherwords for any bylaw breaking weather criminal or summery and beleive some are summery they can only ban from holding a fishing license for up to one year after that maximum 5 years they was a fisherman not a angler as angler do it for sport fishermen do it for profit,so this fisher man comes under the category of a "Poacher" weather on private or free waters the offences he commited amount to the same thing poaching,heres a interesting read www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/news-archive/2006/04/27/fish-ban-man-fined-84229-17001273/now hart who i have seen many times on the river wear at durham down from the passport office where the water is straemy,stands as many do foulhooking salmon and sea trout this is what he was nailed for this time but the courts at durham were being revamped and he was sent to consett courts which are very strict the magestrate wanted to ban him from obtaining a fishing license for life but couldnt,one of the E/A fisheries team had to stand up in harts defence and and say to the magestrate yer can only ban for five years. hart now fishes legaly after a 32 years stint of being a salmon and sea trout poacher since he was a kid,besides his ilegal action he is a qulity course fisherman. without going into to much detail its not a criminal offence to actually fish a private water,summery and very difficult for the owners/renters to actually prosecute ill dig out the legeslation and post
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Post by committeemember on Aug 14, 2012 9:40:36 GMT
Maybe so but if u ban someone for x amount of time from your fishing club/section then anyone banned using your fisheries are trespassing!
It's not just that what the angler was doing was tantamount to poaching but he used physical violence towards a baliff! and as such a maximum ban from the club of 10 years is applicable, unfortunatly the delegates didn't take this point of view. As such they are leaving themselves wide open to other anglers to do the same.
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