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Post by rushy on Jan 27, 2015 9:43:57 GMT
To save me Googling it, can someone enlighten me please. It's now closed season for trout but the last Kippax match was won with 86 lb of Trout as are many other commercial,matches at this time of year ? You can also still fish for Trout in ponds I believe Is this a similar situation to the " okay to fish commercials in closed season but not Rivers" or are the Trout a special breed or sterile or something
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Post by bra1n on Jan 27, 2015 10:39:50 GMT
To save me Googling it, can someone enlighten me please. It's now closed season for trout but the last Kippax match was won with 86 lb of Trout as are many other commercial,matches at this time of year ? You can also still fish for Trout in ponds I believe Is this a similar situation to the " okay to fish commercials in closed season but not Rivers" or are the Trout a special breed or sterile or something You can fish for anything in enclosed still waters at any time of year as I'm sure you know. The trout are all rainbows and most stocked fish are triploids, sterile fish with a chromosome abnormality caused by heat shocking the eggs.
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Post by patterdalewilson on Jan 27, 2015 10:42:33 GMT
Can't help on that one David but in days gone by it was no trout in keepnets. Grahams the man to ask about this one, I spoke to him at kp on sat and I know he doesn't agree with the stocking of trout there, but the matchmen want it to boost the weights. Regards Mick.
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Post by jgpark on Jan 27, 2015 14:39:37 GMT
Rainbows only no closed season, browns are a different thing altogether.
Regards Graham
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Post by trout on Jan 27, 2015 19:01:52 GMT
Rainbows only no closed season, browns are a different thing altogether.
Regards Graham
Spot on that Graham
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Post by johnboy66 on Jan 27, 2015 22:42:56 GMT
I don't agree with trout in keepnets weather in a match or not,
I would say specially in a match when there contained for up to 6 hours how is this legal, you can`t do this on rivers or I`m I missing the point here.
please explain.
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Post by winter55 on Jan 28, 2015 11:05:53 GMT
I don't agree with trout in keepnets weather in a match or not, I would say specially in a match when there contained for up to 6 hours how is this legal, you can`t do this on rivers or I`m I missing the point here. please explain. Well johnboy66 personally i dont agree with carp in keepnets,(specimen carp in a sack for half a hour pegged out correctly for photo ect is fine in fact i think it does the carp a bit of good if anything) but 50lb of carp in a net for nearly 6 hours cant be good for them but thats the way match fishing has gone,small muddy holes full of carp and trout.The carp feed in the summer trout in winter so matchmen can have a match,but to be fair to matchmen who used to fish matches on the rivers most of the time the rivers have been raided by cormorants and otters so in most stretches of rivers only big fish are left so more or less useless for match fishing.I dont no the future of rivers but as otters seem to be breeding quite successfully in the rivers and will need more and more fish to eat its not looking good for the long term future of fishing rivers altogether, what happens once all the big fish get eaten or die of old age or am i wrong and small fish are thriving on some rivers ? but the lengths of river i fish (mainly in winter to be fair) seems to be either big fish or minnows not a lot inbetween or am i just fishing the wrong places or just crap at fishing End of moan.
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Post by wrighty29 on Jan 28, 2015 17:46:47 GMT
I don't agree with trout in keepnets weather in a match or not, I would say specially in a match when there contained for up to 6 hours how is this legal, you can`t do this on rivers or I`m I missing the point here. please explain. Well johnboy66 personally i dont agree with carp in keepnets,(specimen carp in a sack for half a hour pegged out correctly for photo ect is fine in fact i think it does the carp a bit of good if anything) but 50lb of carp in a net for nearly 6 hours cant be good for them but thats the way match fishing has gone,small muddy holes full of carp and trout.The carp feed in the summer trout in winter so matchmen can have a match,but to be fair to matchmen who used to fish matches on the rivers most of the time the rivers have been raided by cormorants and otters so in most stretches of rivers only big fish are left so more or less useless for match fishing.I dont no the future of rivers but as otters seem to be breeding quite successfully in the rivers and will need more and more fish to eat its not looking good for the long term future of fishing rivers altogether, what happens once all the big fish get eaten or die of old age or am i wrong and small fish are thriving on some rivers ? but the lengths of river i fish (mainly in winter to be fair) seems to be either big fish or minnows not a lot inbetween or am i just fishing the wrong places or just crap at fishing End of moan. i never have the decision to make about putting lots of fish in a net as i rarely catch. im pretty much like you winter55,not very good. i only caught 12 fish last year, surly that is not very good as i did an average of two nights a week from may till December
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Post by winter55 on Jan 28, 2015 18:09:51 GMT
Well johnboy66 personally i dont agree with carp in keepnets,(specimen carp in a sack for half a hour pegged out correctly for photo ect is fine in fact i think it does the carp a bit of good if anything) but 50lb of carp in a net for nearly 6 hours cant be good for them but thats the way match fishing has gone,small muddy holes full of carp and trout.The carp feed in the summer trout in winter so matchmen can have a match,but to be fair to matchmen who used to fish matches on the rivers most of the time the rivers have been raided by cormorants and otters so in most stretches of rivers only big fish are left so more or less useless for match fishing.I dont no the future of rivers but as otters seem to be breeding quite successfully in the rivers and will need more and more fish to eat its not looking good for the long term future of fishing rivers altogether, what happens once all the big fish get eaten or die of old age or am i wrong and small fish are thriving on some rivers ? but the lengths of river i fish (mainly in winter to be fair) seems to be either big fish or minnows not a lot inbetween or am i just fishing the wrong places or just crap at fishing End of moan. i never have the decision to make about putting lots of fish in a net as i rarely catch. im pretty much like you winter55,not very good. i only caught 12 fish last year, surly that is not very good as i did an average of two nights a week from may till December Bit of difference fishing wintersett and your top secret water down south to fishing a carp puddle wrighty,even me and you could catch on the puddles even your uncle vern could get 1 or 2 ,well maybe
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Post by kpkh on Jan 28, 2015 21:01:22 GMT
Bit of a success story for you winter55, the wharfe is stuffed with grayling at the moment. Lots of bites on the float, some great winter fishing. Dace also seem to be making a bit of a comeback!
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Post by cabbo on Jan 28, 2015 22:06:12 GMT
I think the Ouse and the nidd were I have done most of my stickfloat fishing this season have fished as well this season as they have for a long time plenty of small stuff and one or two of the barbel lads who fish the Ouse have told me they also have had a good season ,so things don't look to bad don't take this the wrong way lads, IMHO the rivers aren't getting fished enough the fish are their if your willing to put the work. Cabbo
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Post by wrighty29 on Jan 28, 2015 22:11:33 GMT
I think the water moving would confuse me. I find it hard enough as it is without the water moving, not to mention the water level. Can I use 3 rods on the river and camp for the weekend or is it days only.
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Post by winter55 on Jan 28, 2015 22:17:32 GMT
Bit of a success story for you winter55, the wharfe is stuffed with grayling at the moment. Lots of bites on the float, some great winter fishing. Dace also seem to be making a bit of a comeback! Sounds good especially float fishing ,and dace to,will give it a go cheers kpkh
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Post by winter55 on Jan 28, 2015 22:25:39 GMT
I think the water moving would confuse me. I find it hard enough as it is without the water moving, not to mention the water level. Can I use 3 rods on the river and camp for the weekend or is it days only. You will be fine wrighty29 the water only goes one way to the seaside and 2 rods only im afraid, camping allowed some places give it a go you never no
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Post by Eddie on Jan 28, 2015 23:01:02 GMT
The wharfe is supposed to be a failing river, according to the ea, with no real explanation why. But some venues seem to be doing ok. I have had a decent amount of barbel out of the tidal river, some Chubb and some quality dace, not quite ad big as they used to be. But it would be nice to think the wharfe is on the up and getting back to where it was, may need some work convincing the anglers who like Linton or pool though!
Eddie.
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