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Post by caretaker on Sept 15, 2015 17:33:27 GMT
I second the comments of Jimmy Silverfish. We are both fishermen who make different choices ie he spending long periods of time pursuing very large carp and catching plenty in the process, and me happy to have a two or three hour session and happy to catch anything at all. But our common passion, as is the majority of the forum members, is just being out there trying to enjoy whatever offerings the depths of the waters in front of us may offer up. It has to be about having fun with your mates, sharing a laugh and a joke, not taking life too seriously. As Jimmy said there is too much misery and sadness going on all around us to have infighting amongst fellow anglers. What makes a good person ? I think Ralph Waldo Emerson probably summed it up best: To laugh often and much; To win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; To earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; To appreciate beauty; To find the best in others; To leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or a redeemed social condition; To know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived; This is to have succeeded.
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Post by JIMMY SILVERFISH FULLA on Sept 15, 2015 18:06:23 GMT
Wise words from an intelligent man ^^^
My take on the matter is simple,,,
If other anglers are fishing, parish peg then it's parish peg problems,, these anglers are members of other fishing clubs,, there also probably members of the local church and maybe evan on the organ donation register,, they also maybe have a Morrison miles card and tesco club card,,
It's got sweet F.A to do with leeds of any other club lol,,
If someone votes Nigel farrage then goes and burgled a house it's not ukip doing is it ?? Pmsl
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Post by nige_LS7 on Sept 23, 2015 0:05:26 GMT
Won't be leaving the club but may soon be leaving the forum at this rate we can't do much about the bailiffing (unless seriously we do get a decent volunteer who lives in Toplclife or Asenby) but it's a shame the moderation of the forum has to be this poor. Nige It's all a matter of opinion and in my opinion as the moderator it is quite plain to see that some of the lads myself included are a little fed up with old Topcliffes complaints on THIS FORUM. This Forum like all Forums primary aim is to post fishing tales and stories and have some fun. It's called BANTER and it would appear that you have not been subjected to the banter most of us have in our working life's. I would have thought it obvious to anyone with a modicum of the worldly life that Jimmy has not dropped 40 tonne of horse manure in the peg nor has Avin ever fished the Parish peg . . In case you are not aware . . Our lovely Geoff doesn't like Avin . . Nor Leeds ASA for that matter. As regards Topcliffes incesstant complaint , as a committee member I would recommend he does the following 1. Ascertain for definite that the people fishing his beloved Parish peg are Leeds members . . If he doesn't want to approach them alone then get half a dozen friends to accompany him 2. Once he finds out who they are write to the CLUB don't post it on the FORUM. The Forum is frequented by fishing folk ( a lot of them none Leeds members ) who don't really care who's fishing where. They are more interested in how big the fish was !!!! As the moderator I am quite happy for this banter to continue as long as it doesn't get personal. We all need a little fun and enjoyment in our life and some of us even participate in a little self deprecating humour . . It's how we were brought up. It's a fishing Forum mate not one to try and solve the worlds problems !!! I hope you don't leave the Forum mate , your posts and input are very refreshing and topical but I'm afraid you are going to have to ignore the banter coz I ain't deleting it Oh and on the baliff subject . . We have a Topcliffes baliff but just a small point . . The parish peg is not Leeds water so a Leeds Baliff cannot ask anyone on the PArish peg for their yearbook !! I totally agree that the recent complaints about Topcliffe have not been appropriately directed or well expressed, and I've made those thoughts clear in more than one thread. And as you say the complaints themselves may or may not be true, but there have been many complaints so there may or may not be no smoke without fire. But to respond with 'banter' that is likely to offend the complainant is surely not appropriate either. I have spent a decade and a half on football forums & other forums where there is plenty of 'banter', clever wit, sarcasm & mickey -taking but anything intended to offend or provoke (or even respond to provocation in kind) gets deleted right away, and that works fine. What exactly is 'not personal' about taking the mickey out what someone has written by issuing jokey threats (I know they weren't serious - how daft do you think I am - but it's still provocative) of worse things to complain about? Not good PR and when the complainant lives locally in or around Topcliffe a risk of creating a further grudge that is just not worth it. My working life has nothing to do with it & you know nothing about that. Suffice to say that in my experience, whenever 'ignoring the banter' gets mentioned about offensive comments (rather than just mild humour), it usually gets taken as a licence for bullying (or sexism/homophobia/whatever -delete as appropriate) issued by those who can't be bothered doing anything about it. And it's then a bit rich when the worst offender tells us to all chill out cos it's only a fishing forum, etc. when he's the one dragging it down time after time. I think you're the life and soul of the forum, the star poster but not a strong moderator, especially as regards people you know personally. There doesn't seem to be any policy for preventing things from escalating into name-calling time and time again Forum AC, and the work parties etc you organise are wonderful things, and I'm very appreciative of all the help & info that you and others have provided, so although I may have to be less active on here from now on, I'm sure I'll still be around every so often to report on my blanks, bubbles, exploding bait tins, backfiring baitrunners, etc, etc
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Post by Springer on Sept 23, 2015 5:43:44 GMT
TAXI
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Post by grayson on Sept 23, 2015 6:49:43 GMT
Can't actually see what all the fuss is about ; the Swale is about 65 miles long and other swims are available.Or are anglers now only interested in pegs that are within 2 minutes walk of the car? Suspect most of the fuss is a grass is always greener issue.Often wander down to the parish peg (live not far away ) and I can't say I'd even want to fish it in preference to many other swims- and if it involved a 20 minute walk this thread wouldn't exist...
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Post by dranv8 on Sept 23, 2015 7:48:41 GMT
Nige It's all a matter of opinion and in my opinion as the moderator it is quite plain to see that some of the lads myself included are a little fed up with old Topcliffes complaints on THIS FORUM. This Forum like all Forums primary aim is to post fishing tales and stories and have some fun. It's called BANTER and it would appear that you have not been subjected to the banter most of us have in our working life's. I would have thought it obvious to anyone with a modicum of the worldly life that Jimmy has not dropped 40 tonne of horse manure in the peg nor has Avin ever fished the Parish peg . . In case you are not aware . . Our lovely Geoff doesn't like Avin . . Nor Leeds ASA for that matter. As regards Topcliffes incesstant complaint , as a committee member I would recommend he does the following 1. Ascertain for definite that the people fishing his beloved Parish peg are Leeds members . . If he doesn't want to approach them alone then get half a dozen friends to accompany him 2. Once he finds out who they are write to the CLUB don't post it on the FORUM. The Forum is frequented by fishing folk ( a lot of them none Leeds members ) who don't really care who's fishing where. They are more interested in how big the fish was !!!! As the moderator I am quite happy for this banter to continue as long as it doesn't get personal. We all need a little fun and enjoyment in our life and some of us even participate in a little self deprecating humour . . It's how we were brought up. It's a fishing Forum mate not one to try and solve the worlds problems !!! I hope you don't leave the Forum mate , your posts and input are very refreshing and topical but I'm afraid you are going to have to ignore the banter coz I ain't deleting it Oh and on the baliff subject . . We have a Topcliffes baliff but just a small point . . The parish peg is not Leeds water so a Leeds Baliff cannot ask anyone on the PArish peg for their yearbook !! I totally agree that the recent complaints about Topcliffe have not been appropriately directed or well expressed, and I've made those thoughts clear in more than one thread. And as you say the complaints themselves may or may not be true, but there have been many complaints so there may or may not be no smoke without fire. But to respond with 'banter' that is likely to offend the complainant is surely not appropriate either. I have spent a decade and a half on football forums & other forums where there is plenty of 'banter', clever wit, sarcasm & piss-taking but anything intended to offend or provoke (or even respond to provocation in kind) gets deleted right away, and that works fine. What exactly is 'not personal' about taking the piss out what someone has written by issuing jokey threats (I know they weren't serious - how daft do you think I am - but it's still provocative) of worse things to complain about? Not good PR and when the complainant lives locally in or around Topcliffe a risk of creating a further grudge that is just not worth it. My working life has nothing to do with it & you know nothing about that. Suffice to say that in my experience, whenever 'ignoring the banter' gets mentioned about offensive comments (rather than just mild humour), it usually gets taken as a licence for bullying (or sexism/homophobia/whatever -delete as appropriate) issued by those who can't be arsed doing anything about it. And it's then a bit rich when the worst offender tells us to all chill out cos it's only a fishing forum, etc. when he's the one dragging it down time after time. I think you're the life and soul of the forum, the star poster but not a strong moderator, especially as regards people you know personally. There doesn't seem to be any policy for preventing things from escalating into name-calling time and time again Forum AC, and the work parties etc you organise are wonderful things, and I'm very appreciative of all the help & info that you and others have provided, so although I may have to be less active on here from now on, I'm sure I'll still be around every so often to report on my blanks, bubbles, exploding bait tins, backfiring baitrunners, etc, etc I don't post on here much but your comments re MR RUSHMEISTER have prompted me to do so. I think that you are entitled to your opinion but if you look at all the good that Rushy does, work days, matches, write ups etc then I think your comments are directed in the wrong direction, he is only one person and does a d**n site more than most for this club, I also agree with Jimmy on this one that it is only fishing (which is my all consuming passion) but there are more important things in the world to get wound up about. Also if Mr Topcliffe wants to come on here and post obviously antagonistic comments then why should you be surprised when he gets the responses he obviously craves all the best and tighline
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Post by trout on Sept 23, 2015 8:11:03 GMT
I live very close to Topcliffe, Asneby, Helperby and Myton, in all the years I have fished Leeds waters I must say all the fisherman I have talked to on the the bank have been very passionate and considerate towards the club and others in the club, to say Leeds members are fishing the parish peg I feel will not be correct, in all those years the only time I have seen any anglers braking the rules was last year, two young towrags were pulling chub out at the beginning of June using spinners(out of season)of which I a asked the to leave and they did.So I think your frustration topcliffe is aimed in the wrong direction. Saying that nothing is perfect in this world but the people that run the club and the forum do the best they can for no gain so if it were Leeds members braking the rules I am sure it will be addressed.
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Post by rushy on Sept 23, 2015 8:23:57 GMT
Nige It's all a matter of opinion and in my opinion as the moderator it is quite plain to see that some of the lads myself included are a little fed up with old Topcliffes complaints on THIS FORUM. This Forum like all Forums primary aim is to post fishing tales and stories and have some fun. It's called BANTER and it would appear that you have not been subjected to the banter most of us have in our working life's. I would have thought it obvious to anyone with a modicum of the worldly life that Jimmy has not dropped 40 tonne of horse manure in the peg nor has Avin ever fished the Parish peg . . In case you are not aware . . Our lovely Geoff doesn't like Avin . . Nor Leeds ASA for that matter. As regards Topcliffes incesstant complaint , as a committee member I would recommend he does the following 1. Ascertain for definite that the people fishing his beloved Parish peg are Leeds members . . If he doesn't want to approach them alone then get half a dozen friends to accompany him 2. Once he finds out who they are write to the CLUB don't post it on the FORUM. The Forum is frequented by fishing folk ( a lot of them none Leeds members ) who don't really care who's fishing where. They are more interested in how big the fish was !!!! As the moderator I am quite happy for this banter to continue as long as it doesn't get personal. We all need a little fun and enjoyment in our life and some of us even participate in a little self deprecating humour . . It's how we were brought up. It's a fishing Forum mate not one to try and solve the worlds problems !!! I hope you don't leave the Forum mate , your posts and input are very refreshing and topical but I'm afraid you are going to have to ignore the banter coz I ain't deleting it Oh and on the baliff subject . . We have a Topcliffes baliff but just a small point . . The parish peg is not Leeds water so a Leeds Baliff cannot ask anyone on the PArish peg for their yearbook !! I totally agree that the recent complaints about Topcliffe have not been appropriately directed or well expressed, and I've made those thoughts clear in more than one thread. And as you say the complaints themselves may or may not be true, but there have been many complaints so there may or may not be no smoke without fire. But to respond with 'banter' that is likely to offend the complainant is surely not appropriate either. I have spent a decade and a half on football forums & other forums where there is plenty of 'banter', clever wit, sarcasm & mickey -taking but anything intended to offend or provoke (or even respond to provocation in kind) gets deleted right away, and that works fine. What exactly is 'not personal' about taking the mickey out what someone has written by issuing jokey threats (I know they weren't serious - how daft do you think I am - but it's still provocative) of worse things to complain about? Not good PR and when the complainant lives locally in or around Topcliffe a risk of creating a further grudge that is just not worth it. My working life has nothing to do with it & you know nothing about that. Suffice to say that in my experience, whenever 'ignoring the banter' gets mentioned about offensive comments (rather than just mild humour), it usually gets taken as a licence for bullying (or sexism/homophobia/whatever -delete as appropriate) issued by those who can't be bothered doing anything about it. And it's then a bit rich when the worst offender tells us to all chill out cos it's only a fishing forum, etc. when he's the one dragging it down time after time. I think you're the life and soul of the forum, the star poster but not a strong moderator, especially as regards people you know personally. There doesn't seem to be any policy for preventing things from escalating into name-calling time and time again Forum AC, and the work parties etc you organise are wonderful things, and I'm very appreciative of all the help & info that you and others have provided, so although I may have to be less active on here from now on, I'm sure I'll still be around every so often to report on my blanks, bubbles, exploding bait tins, backfiring baitrunners, etc, etc Hi Nige Thanks for your personal comments and opinions , most appreciated , I must update my CV accordingly . (Oh bugga , there I go again . . . I must have been born sarcastic ) On a serious note , it is a Forum and we are all entitled to our opinions and I for one don't take umbrage at anyone elses' opinions of me . As Gloria Gaynor says " I am what I am " Look forwad to your next episode of Bubbles from The Nidd All the best Rushy PS. I must tell you about my apprenticeship days some time. Suspending unfortunate fellow apprentices over toilet cubicles with a six foot length of 2 inch bar threaded through both sleeves of their overalls. The classic , locking them in the "rag bin " until one of the supervisors heard their faint cries of "Heeeeeeelp , let me out , theyve locked me in the rag bin again " Oh and the " Point the coolant pipe at their face " ready for when they switch the machine on was always good for an early morning chuckle ................. Eeeeeeeee fond memories
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Post by Eddie on Sept 23, 2015 9:14:06 GMT
I won't quote nige's post, we've all read it 3 times by now and I agree with some of the points raised and respect an individual for voicing his concerns, especially when standing up against the general flow of most previous posts.
Regarding mr topcliffe and his complaints, as a LDASA bailiff, I did correspond with him by pm, with respect and listened to what he had to say. Pointing out the limitations of what Leeds could do and the fact there wasn't any real evidence to prove it was Leeds anglers at all. But he has had a sensible response to his complaint. In fact I will go as far as to ask all Leeds anglers on all venues to respect the boundaries of our fishing!
Problem is mr topcliffe then went on to participate in thread full of increasing silly posts and then seems to want to start the whole thing off again, that's why he doesn't seem to be taken very seriously!
The other thing to consider is this, as we all know is an open forum and in the past attracted it's fair share of posters intent on stirring up trouble and had next to no moderation whatsoever. It's a better forum now because of Dave's moderation. Good advert for LDASA? I've asked that myself on here in the past, but when you think about it, it's a forum where we can express our thoughts and opinions, it should be for members (why should all and sunder be listening in!), and not the place to advertise the club!
Don't be put off from posting, I don't think anyone has taken your thoughts amiss, we are all entitled to an opinion and asking difficult questions makes for good debate. I like the idea of respect to ALL posters, whether complaining or not. Not so keen on the criticism of the mods. You can moderate the life out of a forum if not careful!
Just my humble opinion,
Eddie.
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Post by cabbo on Sept 23, 2015 18:30:12 GMT
Nige since Dave came on this site its improved 100 percent mate ,I was fed up with the Leeds forum people bickering and threating people, since dave has come on the forum he has attracted some decent folk including yourself nige . The work he puts into this forum from work parties ,forum meetings also setting up the forum AC getting extended fishing hours ,none of this would have been done without Dave . Roll on members only because 99 percent of the bickering on this site is caused by non members ,this is why Dave the moderater is pushing for it . At the start of this thread its topcliffe who comes on with no proof at all making accusations ,has its been said before Leeds only have the right to baliff their own water as is it with any other club be it York ,Bradford or any other . I could carry on a lot more but I won't,just keep up the good work Dave the site as come on leaps and bounds since your arrival. Oh and Mr Park aswell
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Post by harry on Sept 23, 2015 18:37:44 GMT
Well said cabbo.rushy doing good job will be better when its a members only forum.
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Post by bl1ndfsh on Sept 23, 2015 19:44:26 GMT
LOL... Nowts changed as it? Bleat bleat moan. Na then , where have you been ? I've been trudging through the balsam down at Thwaites a few times this season and half expected you to be sat there whipping them Trouts out I've lost your number by the way , it's in the Swale at Helperby as a result of Mr Chub pulling my rod in Liptugga says he was going to let me have it but he seems to spend 7 days a week under a bivvy eating beans and cakes trying to coax Carps out these days Sent you a Pm ....
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Post by rushy on Sept 23, 2015 20:20:00 GMT
I think that's just about run this thread bare We will no doubt have Parish Peg Part 3 before long Nice fish and picture that Jimmy . . Another thread maybe
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