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Post by gcb on Oct 2, 2015 18:43:40 GMT
First pike session of the season today and headed down to the river. After a quiet first 90 mins I moved about 400 yds and bingo first pike of the season and it's a double !! 10 lb 9 oz Further details available on my blog
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Post by woodchip on Oct 2, 2015 19:16:35 GMT
Good angling Geoff Seems the move paid off
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Post by gcb on Oct 3, 2015 17:51:03 GMT
That's a really interesting point woodchip. One which I still have different ideas about when piking with deadbaits. Yes I did leave the first peg after 90 mins but who knows what would have happened if I stayed there ? My experience suggests, tentatively, that the pike roam around their feeding areas as it can be quiet then you can get 4 takes in 30 mins ! I do not think they have suddenly decided to feed, more likely moving fish - maybe a group of 2 or 3 have found my baits. You can get most of your barbel on the first 2 or 3 casts but I rarely find this when pike fishing.
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Post by rushy on Oct 3, 2015 18:27:07 GMT
So if Pike have a feeding area Geoff do you think it is better moving about then if you don't get a take within half an hour or so ? As a novice Pike angler I tend to assume they are " fairly easy to catch " based on my rather naive assumption that they are predators so if you drop a tasty snack within a few feet of them they will have it in half an hour or so
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Post by gcb on Oct 3, 2015 21:28:43 GMT
No dave my experience says stay in an area - maybe put in the odd half sardine or so. if you go walkabouts in my book you could be forever be moving away from the fish. My double came after two hours in the same peg. I doubt they were there already and just started to munch. Sit tight and make an attractive dinner table for them and they will turn up is my recommendation for what its worth.
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Post by bra1n on Oct 3, 2015 21:29:38 GMT
So if Pike have a feeding area Geoff do you think it is better moving about then if you don't get a take within half an hour or so ? As a novice Pike angler I tend to assume they are " fairly easy to catch " based on my rather naive assumption that they are predators so if you drop a tasty snack within a few feet of them they will have it in half an hour or so I've seen underwater video of a Pike completely ignoring a dead bait right in front of it's nose yet heard stories of the same Pike being caught 3 times in 1 session (from 2 different areas) but I guess it's the unpredictably that makes fishing a fascinating hobby.
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Post by gcb on Oct 3, 2015 21:36:00 GMT
Your idea about predators is also an interesting point Dave. Steve in Harrogate angling told me this week about a big barbel that was caught on the trent recently on a whole lamprey ! a 12 inch fish. Even bream and carp have been caught on spinners. What I menan is if a fish is hungry most of them will eat an easy meal that a dead one offers to them. Anyway, enough of the theory, my fishing juices are well and truly excited with the forthcoming colder weather. My club Stillwater was stocked with rainbows on Friday and the possibility of another 20lb river pike always makes me fill up another hot flask of tea ready for when I meet her next!!
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Post by jimlad on Oct 3, 2015 22:04:29 GMT
Well done geoff.
Interesting about roving or not roving, I'm an impatient angler and constantly on my toes wanting to get to the next peg. Spending half an hour or so in a peg before moving on has done well for me in the past, because I've found that if a pike is there and is hungry, it takes a bait pretty quickly. Sometimes though if I know a particular area holds good pike, I will sit it out
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Post by gcb on Oct 3, 2015 22:20:25 GMT
It's not an exact science Jimlad cos we don't know what we would have caught if we stayed rather than moved and vice versa. Look forward to reading about your catches again this winter buddy!
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Post by gcb on Oct 4, 2015 7:48:17 GMT
I tend mainly to use the sit and wait tactic on waters that I know well. I then plonk myself in one or two pegs that have been successful in the past and more often than not they arrive at some time in the session. I would definitely rove about a lot more if I am on a new water.
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Post by Eddie on Oct 4, 2015 8:27:31 GMT
As the temperature drops, pike often feed for only a short period of time. You can sit in a swim all day and perhaps have an hectic hour or so of activity and then back to nothing happening again. That would explain the ignoring baits. So you can be sat on the fish and just have to wait for them to decide to feed. If I was fishing a known pike peg I would tend to stay put, especially fishing dead baits, which can be slow going at the best of times!
Eddie.
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Post by gcb on Oct 4, 2015 19:24:21 GMT
Thanks for that Eddie and some interesting observations. Did I tell you about the day I caught over 100lb of pike from one peg in the late 80's from Nidd Mouth ? Don't try to do it now though the big bream shoals left years ago.
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Post by grayson on Oct 5, 2015 6:19:26 GMT
I only pike fish on rivers but typically will cover a mile or more of river in a session . Pike are often where you really wouldn't expect them- I have had double figure fish in water barely covering their backs. But I am mainly lure fishing and there is no point in throwing out a herring in shallow water and hoping . If I dead bait I will probably fish 6 swims on the river- ideally calmish water next to much quicker water.
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Post by chrisobrien84 on Oct 5, 2015 10:53:28 GMT
I've often found that being sat on a rod for more than an hour or so doesn't produce, whereas being active and fishing 10 spots over the course of the day leads to immediate bites.
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Post by smithleback on Oct 6, 2015 20:39:52 GMT
2river pike for me sunday,ten and a 7,sprat[single hook traces,hate trebles for deadbaits,dont need em]piking times here
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