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Post by wrighty29 on Aug 14, 2012 10:03:59 GMT
i think the problem the delegates had was it was one's word against another. i'm not saying this is right as they should have backed there bailiff.
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Post by committeemember on Aug 14, 2012 10:24:06 GMT
Completely agree Wrighty but as you say they should have backed their baliff! Seem's more to it than meets the eye though!
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Post by gedthespread on Aug 14, 2012 12:05:40 GMT
The delegates should have backed the gp comittee in their decision.they are not fit for purpose.
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Post by committeemember on Aug 14, 2012 12:07:16 GMT
I 100% agree with you Ged!
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Post by cocopops on Aug 15, 2012 12:13:31 GMT
yeah where an angling club or private rights of fishing are concerned,if the said person(s) come back for another go and get caught again yeah tresspass to land and even sometimes a theft act can happen,so yeah a ban is the must angling clubs do have the right to ban a person from becomeing a member of their syndacate for life if their want but in a court like i say yer can get a maximum of 5 years ban from legaly holding/obtaining a fishing license,so that means no fishing,now i live in a high end game fishing area Tyne,Wear and Tees catchmeant areas so yer hear about people getting these type of sentances when salmon fishing offences occur,but these days the E/A are starting to adopt the ban to repeat offenders for say feeder fishing for example bream,the massive increase in salmon runs has brought them outa the wood work and now they check everyone...but wont get involved The Ea that is,in anyone fishing in a legal manner on somebody elses water without consent,in other words if yer fishing with a salmon fly rod with lead core line straight through with a leader of 25lb bs and say a size 4-6 trble its bloody obveous what yer doing,but if yer fishing mannerism is ok they wont intervene until yer make a kill,then yer probly get done for foul hooking fish,but if yer still got the same set up with a fly on and a floating line theyly just ask yer for yer license only as they say its not their job to get involved in private disputes between anglers and landowners etc...but it is their job to safegaurd the passage of salmon sea trout and freshwater fish and eels,as well as many other tasks the E/A have to deal with
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Post by gcb on Aug 15, 2012 19:30:47 GMT
phew! you've tired me out trying to decifer that!
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Post by inspiron on Aug 15, 2012 20:36:53 GMT
phew! you've tired me out trying to decifer that! That is the single longest sentence I have ever seen! |
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Post by committeemember on Aug 16, 2012 6:16:58 GMT
Must have read it 5 times and still having trouble!
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Post by specimenhunter on Aug 24, 2012 7:26:39 GMT
Truthfuly its better than getting the police involved and causing the club to lose its reputation and for names not mentioned the reason for this COULD be that the law says its confidential but what about the FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT? i would love to know who did what but who really cares and what will it change? Whats happend has happend and a punishment has proved to work, i have felt the club has been a bit arsy but that was my problem and i have sorted that out but why do people have to bring things up from years ago that has been sorted.
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Post by frim on Aug 24, 2012 13:20:59 GMT
I think one or two should go back to the first page and have a look at the questions and answers already given.
It's nothing to do with poaching the E.A or Civil Law, no criminal actions were taken by the police after the initial interviews of both parties. " It was left to us"
I was part of the GP- we looked at the evidence given to us, and every member of that committee backed Ged 100% for his stance on fish welfare and the fact that he was attacked for his intended actions of returning the fish back to the water. After taking legal advice we were told that the maximum penalty we could impose was a 10 year ban "no iffs, buts, or maybe's.
We gave the maximum penalty which had never been done before by the Society and intended to show that his kind of behavior would not be tolerated by any member, and that we will always back our bailiffs.
The fact that it was even given to the delegates to hear, totally undermined the committee that for 100yrs had been trusted to deal with all disciplinary acts, but the archaic rules that Leeds still run to mean delegates get the final say, everyone on the GP expected them to back us " they didn't" in my opinion they bottled it, and this just showed how flawed the system is.
The good news is Graham Park has for the past year been working on an up to date constitution for the Amalgamation hoping to bring us into 21st centuary and give all members equal rights and voting powers, if it happens and it looks like it will then delegates power will be finished.
Steve Fearnley
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Post by specimenhunter on Aug 30, 2012 2:15:42 GMT
i have not read this thread...................................who cares, I mean, who RELAY gives a flying fek! i just buried my little sister, i have to try to look after two old parents trying to cope with this. get a grip, live and let live. you relay can be a petty bunch of selfish old farts, i hope you all get what you want. Look mate, this conversation started ages before what has happened....I can understand what has happened as my bro died from cf but you gotta stop doin this, just respect others and leave this forum if you don't like it. |
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Post by gedthespread on Aug 30, 2012 12:06:04 GMT
Your personal problems are nothing to do with this forum
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Post by Springer on Aug 30, 2012 20:16:07 GMT
i think its computer night on the psycho ward.one of you need to go get one of the nurses i think they have forgot you medication again ....
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Post by specimenhunter on Aug 30, 2012 20:30:58 GMT
i think its computer night on the psycho ward.one of you need to go get one of the nurses i think they have forgot you medication again .... Medicine? More like the tranquilizers. ;D ;D |
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Post by knowbody on Aug 31, 2012 23:15:08 GMT
if that were the case i would not be posting in your selective little vew of the world, would I? I would be like you................trankwalized and brain dead  |
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