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Post by mortia on Jun 22, 2015 12:28:17 GMT
I went to hammerton on thursday (bumped in to John boy - I think, at the weirpool). I had fancied fishing in the weirpool & was festooned with float rods, waders etc but he beat me to it - hope you got a few ?
Any way the best bit of kit I had in my armoury was a little tenon saw which I had just slipped in my bag with the intention of clearing ONE branch out of a peg i had spotted on a recce the day before.
So armed with enough fishing gear to allow a small nation to feed itself I staggered off down the bank, almost came to serious grief getting over the barbed wire ( more stiles needed I think!) & set off in pursuit of the one branch to remove. I slithhered down through the nettles (spade required next time to cut some steps). I then set in to THE branch - now I know that a tenon saw is not the best tool for this situation especially trying to saw through sappy willow, but it was only ONE branch. To move the tale on I have to report that about SIX branches later (where over an hour or so I must have sweated at least a bait bucket full out !) I have created a cracking little peg, which i managed to float fish for a couple of hours catching Roach,Dace,Perch & lots of small Chub before switching over to heavier gear & managing a better Chub & a seriously beat up looking Barbel of just under six pounds. So the fishing God smiled down on my efforts.
I would be up for further peg clearing - but it doesn't need to be bank clearing like Quint may be suggesting.
cHEERS
aNDY
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Post by johnboy66 on Jun 22, 2015 12:56:00 GMT
Yh that was me mate couple of bites 1 on meat & 1 on halibut pellet no fish tho, liked the peg further up tho before the corner.
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Post by grayson on Jun 22, 2015 14:25:48 GMT
Maybe the club should pay some money out to have these jungles cleared and treated so that the jungles don't grow back. They can spend £10,000's on new commercial venues and put the book price up but can't help out the river anglers. It's not on really. WHAT ? Let's get this clear - you want 'jungles' or what some of us term 'natural vegetation 'not only 'cleared ' but 'treated '..With what ? Herbicide -Roundup - or similar? Have you even the remotest idea what that sort of stuff does to flora and fauna ? Here's some advice - try and learn a little bit about ecology and in the meantime buy yourself some cheap tools to clear the swims you want to fish . What exactly do you expect on your riverbank- nice little boardwalks, level platforms and none of those horrible weeds and trees getting in your way? |
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Post by quint on Jun 23, 2015 22:31:53 GMT
Maybe the club should pay some money out to have these jungles cleared and treated so that the jungles don't grow back. They can spend £10,000's on new commercial venues and put the book price up but can't help out the river anglers. It's not on really. WHAT ? Let's get this clear - you want 'jungles' or what some of us term 'natural vegetation 'not only 'cleared ' but 'treated '..With what ? Herbicide -Roundup - or similar? Have you even the remotest idea what that sort of stuff does to flora and fauna ? Here's some advice - try and learn a little bit about ecology and in the meantime buy yourself some cheap tools to clear the swims you want to fish . What exactly do you expect on your riverbank- nice little boardwalks, level platforms and none of those horrible weeds and trees getting in your way? The EA use chemicals to control Balsam and Hogweed all the time, maybe you should do some research before piping up next time. The 2nd field at Hammerton needs treating, simple as, 70% of the stretch is unfishable. |
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Post by Eddie on Jun 23, 2015 22:52:13 GMT
Just a bit of common sense needed, the banks need some clearing, we need access to our venues to keep them viable.
A bit of bank work, more fishing and we should be fine! The nidd is hopefully being tamed for all to fish!
Eddie.
Ps. Not necessarily chemicals, a bit of strumming maybe!
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Post by kpkh on Jun 24, 2015 7:10:28 GMT
Come on leeds be the first to creat the comercial river! Rip out all the bank side vegitation, clear the trees and some ov those anoying bushes that hang across the river, platform in every 20yds, fill it full of carp job done  |
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Post by jgpark on Jun 24, 2015 7:37:15 GMT
Any spare rolls of carpet will come in handy Karl
O n a serious note the E.A are carrying out tests in other parts of the country on balsam and hogweed control and we sort advice from them and requested that the Hammerton fishery be included in these tests in this part of the country and this situation is still on going but with only a slight possibility of us being included. The point being things are happening all the time behind the scenes to improve all venues.
Regards Graham
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Post by dranv8 on Jun 24, 2015 7:57:35 GMT
Come on leeds be the first to creat the comercial river! Rip out all the bank side vegitation, clear the trees and some ov those anoying bushes that hang across the river, platform in every 20yds, fill it full of carp job done Bit of an over reaction to the fantastic work that some of the guys have done to give everyone access, no one is suggesting that we decimate the place and loose a jewel of a river just that we make access into the more over grown reaches.You have to remember the guys doing this work are all anglers and have no intention of ruining a fantastic river,either for themselves or others. |
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Post by quint on Jun 24, 2015 8:06:17 GMT
Just a bit of common sense needed, the banks need some clearing, we need access to our venues to keep them viable. A bit of bank work, more fishing and we should be fine! The nidd is hopefully being tamed for all to fish! Eddie. Ps. Not necessarily chemicals, a bit of strumming maybe! I have no problem with clearing pegs every year, but when the banks are thick with Balsam before you even decide where a peg could be, then that's where I have a problem. Balsam comes back just as bad every year, cut it down, it's back just as thick the next season, it's a real pain in the arse and the number one reason that stops certain stretches being fished. Chemicals are necessary when it comes to Balsam, the EA want rid of the lot of it, estimated cost to eradicate it from UK, £300m. |
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Post by rushy on Jun 24, 2015 8:28:30 GMT
Come on leeds be the first to creat the comercial river! Rip out all the bank side vegitation, clear the trees and some ov those anoying bushes that hang across the river, platform in every 20yds, fill it full of carp job done Bit of an over reaction to the fantastic work that some of the guys have done to give everyone access, no one is suggesting that we decimate the place and loose a jewel of a river just that we make access into the more over grown reaches.You have to remember the guys doing this work are all anglers and have no intention of ruining a fantastic river,either for themselves or others. I think it was a joke Brent . . . sarcasm eh ..................... a man after my own heart  |
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Post by dranv8 on Jun 24, 2015 8:49:08 GMT
Bit of an over reaction to the fantastic work that some of the guys have done to give everyone access, no one is suggesting that we decimate the place and loose a jewel of a river just that we make access into the more over grown reaches.You have to remember the guys doing this work are all anglers and have no intention of ruining a fantastic river,either for themselves or others. I think it was a joke Brent . . . sarcasm eh ..................... a man after my own heart Dooooooo sorry kpkh just been shown the error of my ways by Rushy please accept my apologies mate |
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Post by nige_LS7 on Jun 24, 2015 11:54:19 GMT
So shall we start talking dates for another working party? And what are the aims ? I assume it's going to be some work on the pegs at the Hammerton end plus strimming and weedkilling a single track path the whole way through to the railway top?
I know rushy's probably been waiting to have any match dates confirmed, but anyway, what's people's availability for Sat 11th July and Sat 18th? Then we choose the best of those two? Those dates are short notice, but then again the school holidays start after that so some members with families will doubtless be going away. Obviously we preferably need a few people who know where the pegs and path used to be!!
I'm available both 11th and 18th.
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Post by memsec on Jun 24, 2015 12:26:07 GMT
Any spare rolls of carpet will come in handy Karl
O n a serious note the E.A are carrying out tests in other parts of the country on balsam and hogweed control and we sort advice from them and requested that the Hammerton fishery be included in these tests in this part of the country and this situation is still on going but with only a slight possibility of us being included. The point being things are happening all the time behind the scenes to improve all venues.
Regards Graham
Yes, there's a new virus being rolled out against Balsam but uprooting individual plants by hand before the flowers have set seed is still as effective, even if harder work. Re giant hogweed, the only practical route to eradication is to spray emerging plants with glyphosphate (eg RoundUp) when they first come out in April/May and then to spray emerging plants monthly after that. You need to start at the top of the catchment (because seeds spread mainly downstream from the hogweed source) and you need to follow a regime of inspection of banks and spraying for 8-10 years, because the seed bank can stay viable for that long. There is a semi-organised project on the Aire (EA + Yorks Wildlife Trust + occasional angling clubs) but I don't think it's been rolled out to many other catchments in Yorkshire. That doesn't mean of course that a well-organised club couldn't start doing something about it themselves? |
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Post by grayson on Jun 24, 2015 12:26:07 GMT
WHAT ? Let's get this clear - you want 'jungles' or what some of us term 'natural vegetation 'not only 'cleared ' but 'treated '..With what ? Herbicide -Roundup - or similar? Have you even the remotest idea what that sort of stuff does to flora and fauna ? Here's some advice - try and learn a little bit about ecology and in the meantime buy yourself some cheap tools to clear the swims you want to fish . What exactly do you expect on your riverbank- nice little boardwalks, level platforms and none of those horrible weeds and trees getting in your way? The EA use chemicals to control Balsam and Hogweed all the time, maybe you should do some research before piping up next time. The 2nd field at Hammerton needs treating, simple as, 70% of the stretch is unfishable. No research needed - and as I have pointed out before on this forum balsam is a problem , as is knotweed and hogweed. Targetted clearance is fine - as the Forestry Commission do with Asulox on bracken for example. The big 'BUT ' is that I sensed an appetite for much more radical clearance - and having seen the utter god almighty mess LDASA made with one of its former waters I think I am right to be concerned at pandering to the whim of people who appear to want rivers to look more like parks than natural habitat |
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Post by memsec on Jun 24, 2015 12:39:16 GMT
I went to hammerton on thursday (bumped in to John boy - I think, at the weirpool). I had fancied fishing in the weirpool & was festooned with float rods, waders etc but he beat me to it - hope you got a few ? Any way the best bit of kit I had in my armoury was a little tenon saw which I had just slipped in my bag with the intention of clearing ONE branch out of a peg i had spotted on a recce the day before. So armed with enough fishing gear to allow a small nation to feed itself I staggered off down the bank, almost came to serious grief getting over the barbed wire ( more stiles needed I think!) & set off in pursuit of the one branch to remove. I slithhered down through the nettles (spade required next time to cut some steps). I then set in to THE branch - now I know that a tenon saw is not the best tool for this situation especially trying to saw through sappy willow, but it was only ONE branch. To move the tale on I have to report that about SIX branches later (where over an hour or so I must have sweated at least a bait bucket full out !) I have created a cracking little peg, which i managed to float fish for a couple of hours catching Roach,Dace,Perch & lots of small Chub before switching over to heavier gear & managing a better Chub & a seriously beat up looking Barbel of just under six pounds. So the fishing God smiled down on my efforts. I would be up for further peg clearing - but it doesn't need to be bank clearing like Quint may be suggesting. cHEERS aNDY Question - is it OK for members to do work like clearing bankside vegetation, digging out river banks to make steps etc without permission from riparian landowner and club officials? many clubs don;t allow it for fearing of upsetting the locals and losing the fishing. I believe the EA also requires formal permission for any bankside works (other than lopping a few branches) within a few meters of the top of the river bank. |
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