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Post by Barker on Feb 3, 2016 21:15:35 GMT
Agree with Key and lock, and dawn-dusk fishing, One lake reserved for pleasure anglers at weekends. Otherwise wasted my tenner for MMP also.
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Post by Eddie on Feb 3, 2016 21:29:46 GMT
Agree with Key and lock, and dawn-dusk fishing, One lake reserved for pleasure anglers at weekends. Otherwise wasted my tenner for MMP also. You can't really be selling £10 permits, but not giving any opportunity to use them, that's if you work, evenings and weekends are the only possible time you can use them! I can see permit sales plummeting! Forgive the pun lol. Eddie.
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Post by jgpark on Feb 3, 2016 21:46:48 GMT
Possible way forward, scrap permits ( my idea originally, maybe got it wrong ) yearbook holders fish free, no day tickets at all ( not sure if that will effect income too much to do ) match's on two pools only at any one time, one pool always available, everyone pays a peg fee on match's. Fit a BWB lock to both gates, keys available as usual. This cannot be operated this year because too many permits already out there and possibly too many match's already booked
Regards Graham
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Post by williedoubletug on Feb 3, 2016 22:01:10 GMT
When fishing a matches at moor monkton or else where i think there should be a weight limit on the size of carp you can retain in keep nets to 7lbs /8 lbs as iv heard they have been putting some big doubles in and in my views i see that as cruelty and i think a few others will agree with me on that i hope? the big carp could be transfered into another lake were pleasure anglers can catch and release them with minimum stress to the fish so they can carry on growing bigger for others to catch. What are you thoughts on this people as i want to include everyones views on this so we can all fish happy
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Post by williedoubletug on Feb 3, 2016 22:07:20 GMT
If this a water owned by leeds why does it not have a water board lock on so we can let our self in and out and fish from dawn till dusk like other venues and it can be self policeing.. members can baliff it as it says in the book every member is a baliff am i wrong ? I agree with this and think it should be brought up in the next meeting its a club water for members you have are tenners so we should get are moneys worth treat it like all the other club waters like sandwath and kippax polo park lock and key dawn till dusk so all these who work for a living can come unwind and chill.
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Post by boxmuncher on Feb 3, 2016 22:23:09 GMT
When fishing a matches at moor monkton or else where i think there should be a weight limit on the size of carp you can retain in keep nets to 7lbs /8 lbs as iv heard they have been putting some big doubles in and in my views i see that as cruelty and i think a few others will agree with me on that i hope? the big carp could be transfered into another lake were pleasure anglers can catch and release them with minimum stress to the fish so they can carry on growing bigger for others to catch. What are you thoughts on this people as i want to include everyones views on this so we can all fish happy I see were your coming from here pal and agree with what you are saying having big carp confined in a small space not been able to swim for oxygen its like us been locked up in a air tight box with a small hole for air but not been able to get enough and in the end your at the end
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Post by johnboy66 on Feb 3, 2016 22:47:39 GMT
Possible way forward, scrap permits ( my idea originally, maybe got it wrong ) yearbook holders fish free, no day tickets at all ( not sure if that will effect income too much to do ) match's on two pools only at any one time, one pool always available, everyone pays a peg fee on match's. Fit a BWB lock to both gates, keys available as usual. This cannot be operated this year because too many permits already out there and possibly too many match's already booked
Regards Graham
Graham do we know how many day tickets where sold last year, did it bring much income i know its extra income for MMP. if not should be members only
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Post by jgpark on Feb 3, 2016 23:05:09 GMT
We took over on 1st March and the accounts for that financial year ended on 31st August and in that short period we achieved £3369-00 in day tickets and £7973-00 in match fee's,
Regards Graham
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Post by johnboy66 on Feb 3, 2016 23:46:35 GMT
thanks Graham
be a shame to loose all that money especial on day tickets and that's not a full years worth, i don't know all the in`s and out`s of it but that's some good money there.
maybe seeing that day tickets should stay at least for now
as long as there space for pleasure anglers on a weekend i don't mined
thanks again for the info
JB.
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Post by Barker on Feb 4, 2016 0:31:16 GMT
Agree Johnboy, I wouldn't want non members not to be able to fish there if it's possible. Great venue for all. A place where people who aren't club members to learn.... The future. But also to allow the pleasure angler to fish for longer periods. I'm from a match fishing background but don't fish many these days. So can see both sides of the coin. But want the best for everybody. Match men happy. And pleasure anglers happy. That's what we all pay for and join the club for. Regards GB.
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Post by rushy on Feb 4, 2016 8:31:23 GMT
thanks Graham be a shame to loose all that money especial on day tickets and that's not a full years worth, i don't know all the in`s and out`s of it but that's some good money there. maybe seeing that day tickets should stay at least for now as long as there space for pleasure anglers on a weekend i don't mined thanks again for the info JB. JB , don't just read the headlines , go into the small print . We don't have a local baliff so my understanding is that everyday someone is travelling from Leeds to baliff the place. Leeds to Moor Monkton , according to Google is 28 miles , that's a 56 mile round trip. Whoever is going is quite rightly claiming petrol money which In industry is around 40p a mile. Do the maths . . . In fact , don't do the maths , I will do them for ya cos I've still not finished my tea and toast 56 X 40p = £22.40 £22.40 X 365 days a year = £8176 It's probably costing us more to go collect the day ticket money . . . Some commercial venture that !!! And don't forget the poor guy who's going to collect the money is there all day wasting his life away for nothing !!! I strongly suspect that once you make it members only all the regular day ticket guys will see sense and buy a yearbook anyway. Adult members only have to fish it ten times to get their money back and senior citizens get their money back after half a dozen visits . Bugga , my toast has gone cold now
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Post by patterdalewilson on Feb 4, 2016 9:33:15 GMT
Dave, I'm no fan of mmp the way it is run at the moment but I did the math based on a full year and using Grahams numbers and your expenses figures I got a profit of £14,508-00. Now I know they spend shed loads on spotty fish and sanitizing the place but it's still a fair amount into the coffers. I do hope for changes to the way the place is managed currently and agree in principle to a lot of the ideas thrown up on here. But I suspect not a lot will change Mick.
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Post by johnboy66 on Feb 4, 2016 13:18:02 GMT
thanks Graham be a shame to loose all that money especial on day tickets and that's not a full years worth, i don't know all the in`s and out`s of it but that's some good money there. maybe seeing that day tickets should stay at least for now as long as there space for pleasure anglers on a weekend i don't mined thanks again for the info JB. JB , don't just read the headlines , go into the small print . We don't have a local baliff so my understanding is that everyday someone is travelling from Leeds to baliff the place. Leeds to Moor Monkton , according to Google is 28 miles , that's a 56 mile round trip. Whoever is going is quite rightly claiming petrol money which In industry is around 40p a mile. Do the maths . . . In fact , don't do the maths , I will do them for ya cos I've still not finished my tea and toast 56 X 40p = £22.40 £22.40 X 365 days a year = £8176 It's probably costing us more to go collect the day ticket money . . . Some commercial venture that !!! And don't forget the poor guy who's going to collect the money is there all day wasting his life away for nothing !!! I strongly suspect that once you make it members only all the regular day ticket guys will see sense and buy a yearbook anyway. Adult members only have to fish it ten times to get their money back and senior citizens get their money back after half a dozen visits . Bugga , my toast has gone cold now well that me well and truly told
but wait a minute i did say i didn't know the in`s and out`s of it all
freedom of speech Rushy !!!
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Post by rushy on Feb 4, 2016 13:34:32 GMT
Dave, I'm no fan of mmp the way it is run at the moment but I did the math based on a full year and using Grahams numbers and your expenses figures I got a profit of £14,508-00. Now I know they spend shed loads on spotty fish and sanitizing the place but it's still a fair amount into the coffers. I do hope for changes to the way the place is managed currently and agree in principle to a lot of the ideas thrown up on here. But I suspect not a lot will change Mick. Mick I think you have included the income from the matches. I'm not advocating we stop matches. They generate a good income and should continue . . . With a lake left free Saturday and Sunday My calculation was based on the six months figures provided by Graham for day tickets. I'm suggesting a way to extend the hours pleasure anglers can fish which at the moment is limited to 8pm due to the fact that we have to have bailiffs there. If we made it members only with BWB locks on the gates we wouldn't need the bailiffs , which again , based on Graham's figures and my expenses assumption means we pay more in petrol money than we collect in day tickets All the best Dave R
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Post by patterdalewilson on Feb 4, 2016 13:58:15 GMT
Yes I did the whole income together The totals without the match fees are a minus of £1,438-00 not really a nice earner ! Cheers Mick
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