simo
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Post by simo on Nov 25, 2010 16:18:15 GMT
I'm thinking of giving Blacker Dam a go for the carp. Been away from fishing for awhile due to illness and don't really fancy going back to knotford and Blacker is right on my doorstep! Are there still carp in numbers worth fishing for? And what size are they? Thank you for any help
Simo
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Post by endpegger on Nov 25, 2010 17:30:50 GMT
as you said years ago!!!! lets live in the modern world . seems like nobody fishes sandwath much ,i wonder why that is get the carp in , an empty fishery based on yesterdays wont sell yearbooks
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Post by gcb on Nov 25, 2010 19:04:22 GMT
The reason nobody fishes sandwath - actually that is untrue, many fish it - is that people such as yourself want to try and create a fishery for themselves- as you seem to be doing - rather than one that is sustainable for the water. geoff
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simo
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Post by simo on Nov 25, 2010 19:29:24 GMT
Well seems like somethings never change in fishing with our biggest enemy being ourselves! I didn't come on here to have peole argue over Sandwath but to find some genuine info from people who know.....
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Post by dan on Dec 3, 2010 15:42:10 GMT
The pics of the nets Frim posted up didn't look too empty Endpegger.
Are you suggesting there should be more carp in there?
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Post by dan on Dec 3, 2010 15:43:41 GMT
Sorry to have hijacked Simmo.
Unfortunately, I can't help with the Blacker Dam advice. I'm sure you'll get the answers you were looking for, alternatively just give it a bash
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Post by simo on Dec 13, 2010 12:29:29 GMT
I used to hold a Leeds book many years ago, back then if i remember right the majority of carp were removed from Kippax Polo and put in Catterick now im reading that about 5 years ago the big carp were removed from Blacker Dam and placed in Catterick! How often did this happen? Cos to then go and sell it, for however much seems silly, especially when match fishing is in decline and carp fishing is on the rise Historically the club may be match bias but shurely this must change over time to meet the modern requirments of fishing if Leeds wants to continue long into the future?
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Post by bof on Dec 13, 2010 15:57:44 GMT
Only fished Blacker for the Carp a couple of times this year, and no its not as prolific as it was before some of the stock was sent to Catterick. But its by no means a dead loss. No, not by any stretch of the imagination. Well it is lately of course, but I dont know of any pond thats not got a lid on it just now. Blacker's Carp will respond to a bit of snap going in, well, as soon as the water warms up anyway. So if you live close by, start a bit of baiting up here and there, and you will reap the benefits. BOF
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Post by grahampark on Dec 14, 2010 22:33:32 GMT
hI Simo You are correct in what you remember about Blacker Dam, a number of carp were removed and taken to Catterick, also remember we owned the lake at that time and the fish stocks. At Kippax Polo i can assure you that no carp have ever been removed to go to Catterick or any other society stillwaters. After the Sandwath survey was carried out we engauged the some guys to do a similar job at the Polo and what we saw that day left no doubt in our minds about the numbers of sizeable carp in this venue, hence the reason to allow night fishing on this pond.
Regards Graham
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Post by frim on Dec 15, 2010 23:59:46 GMT
Stock records have been checked, 100 carp were removed from blacker and moved to catterick March 1995 "I was there and more went back than we took. Polo survey, less than half the lake was netted and over 100 carp were captured and returned, 73 of them been weighed for over 700lb the other 30 odd caught in the second short sweep were released without weighing but were between 5 and 15lb approx. Considering only open water was netted and around the island was left untouched, its reasonable to assume that up wards or over 300 carp are present today. Even looking on the low side and knocking 50 or 100 off this means polo (less than 2 acre) is well over stocked with carp alone and not including silvers. Working on the most basic of pounds per acre stocking table, polo is living on an overstocked knife edge, to improve general health and weight gain of our fish it needs to be cropped, but at the moment we have nowhere to put them. Sandwath meeting with EA shortly to discuss habitat improvements. Steve
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Post by bof on Dec 29, 2010 20:09:10 GMT
The answer to the Polo's imbalance is supplementary feeding rather than reducing the fish stocks. 3 to 5kg of soaked Wheat or Maize applied daily over the week, every week, will boost the available food considerably. Even better if it can be boiled after soaking, to improve the availability of nutrients to the fish. Better still if high protein pellets can be applied, however the latter would be quite costly. This extra feeding will then allow the lake to support a much greater weight of fish per acre, thus allowing the fish to grow on, and contrary to most folks knee jerk reaction that it would prevent anglers catching by over feeding, it would in fact lead to much greater activity by the fish and greater competition for all available feed. BOF
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Post by alongchuck on Dec 29, 2010 22:41:11 GMT
sounds like a good idea. the more they eat the bigger they will get. by the sounds of it knotford is a prime example.
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Post by frim on Jan 3, 2011 23:19:21 GMT
Sorry to disagree boff but it doesn't work like that on a fishery with the stocks like we have on polo. Just work on general mass principles-more food=larger fish=less room=more waste=poor water quality. The list could go on. Sensible cropping is the way forward. Steve
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Post by haz123 on Jan 15, 2011 15:59:48 GMT
There are still lots of big carp in polo, theres supposed to be a thirty plus carp in there. Almost every time i fished it in 2010 i saw someone there catch a carp over 10 pounds and they seem to be doing well.
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