River fishing Stick float v Waggler

[johnboy66]

I know most of you do a lot of stick float fishing on the rivers but as anyone tried the waggler - insert and straight.

if so do you see any difference in the ability of fishing the waggler or any info of the pros and cons.

I would imagine the slower the flow the better. 

JB.

[Eddie]

I've done loads of river waggler fishing and the only float I would use is peathingy quill, no insert!
It's a great method for roach, dace and nabbing chub from under far bank willows on wider rivers.
That's what the method is best for, fishing at distance and in a down stream wind, which makes the stick unusable sometimes.
If you are having a session on the waggler you need to be organised and get into a routine, cast out, sink the line, open the bail arm and put the rod on the properly positioned rest, catapult some bait out and pick the rod up, allowing line to peel from the spool as you follow the float down stream.
When you get a bite strike low, sweeping the rod round untill you feel the fish, there is sometimes quite a bow of line to pick up.
You can fish it in quite fast water, just use a chunky float and maybe not shot it down too much! You can fish at depth, shallow or even dragging bottom slightly to slow the float.
Shotting patterns are bulk around the base of float and then your first shot halfway between hook and float,say a no4 and one or two no6 below that, last shot about 1ft above the hook, similar to a still water set up! If the line is feathered as the float lands this will be pretty tangle free.
It's a busy method, but on its day a killer!

Eddie.

[jimlad]

A big peathingy against the far bank tree line can be deadly ;(

[patterdalewilson]

I think Eddie has summed it up nicely,the only thing I could add is find a nice long swim because if you cast downstream of your position it reduces the angle of the bow of line. This makes picking up the line on the strike much easier.

[smithleback]

Prefer the marvin[hagler/waggler]mysen,used the avon to good effect[sometimes] for winter grayling,
dont seem to do much sticking tho

[johnboy66]

Oct 13, 2015 15:07:04 GMT Eddie said:

I've done loads of river waggler fishing and the only float I would use is peathingy quill, no insert!
It's a great method for roach, dace and nabbing chub from under far bank willows on wider rivers.
That's what the method is best for, fishing at distance and in a down stream wind, which makes the stick unusable sometimes.
If you are having a session on the waggler you need to be organised and get into a routine, cast out, sink the line, open the bail arm and put the rod on the properly positioned rest, catapult some bait out and pick the rod up, allowing line to peel from the spool as you follow the float down stream.
When you get a bite strike low, sweeping the rod round untill you feel the fish, there is sometimes quite a bow of line to pick up.
You can fish it in quite fast water, just use a chunky float and maybe not shot it down too much! You can fish at depth, shallow or even dragging bottom slightly to slow the float.
Shotting patterns are bulk around the base of float and then your first shot halfway between hook and float,say a no4 and one or two no6 below that, last shot about 1ft above the hook, similar to a still water set up! If the line is feathered as the float lands this will be pretty tangle free.
It's a busy method, but on its day a killer!

Eddie.

Thanks Eddie, now that's the sort of info an Angles like

[Eddie]

The forum changing words is a pain, lets try peacok, peac##k or even peahens other half waggler.

Eddie.

[rushy]

JB,

The only bit of anti tangling tactic I would add to Eddies post is the shot half way down the line is better slightly more than half way down so if you use that shot as a fulcrum , when you lift your hook up towards the bottom of your float it doesn't reach . . . Hope you get my drift

I've had some good Chub and Barbel on the pellet waggled and luncheon meat this season in faster water. Shot either side of the float and nothing else but a big lump of meat and let it run through

[johnboy66]

just had another thought what about loafer Floats I suppose you would use these for distance and bigger baits like Rushy says (big chucks of meat)

[rushy]

Oct 14, 2015 13:09:45 GMT johnboy66 said:

just had another thought what about loafer Floats I suppose you would use these for distance and bigger baits like Rushy says (big chucks of meat)

Yup that's what I use em for JB. Trotting meat, or bread flake for the big boys. 3 swan 6 inch from the hook and maybe a number 4 under the float just to maintain your correct depth. I used to put a number 8 under the float but I cant find the slit in em these days