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Post by rushy on Nov 6, 2015 10:14:55 GMT
29 members out of a total membership of 1794 attended the AGM last night. Any thoughts ? All the best Dave R PS. I must confess , I didn't make it this year , family bonfire
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Post by dranv8 on Nov 6, 2015 10:57:37 GMT
I think the apathy is down to the fact that it doesn't really matter what the members say the decision will be made by a few at the top and thats the way it is, no point having a say if the powers that be are not hearing what you say.
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Post by winter55 on Nov 6, 2015 11:52:39 GMT
100% Exactly right dranv8 ,pointless exercise going, the top brass do what they like the members dont have a say.
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Post by Eddie on Nov 6, 2015 11:56:26 GMT
29 members out of a total membership of 1794 attended the AGM last night. Any thoughts ? All the best Dave R PS. I must confess , I didn't make it this year , family bonfire Exactly the same with me Dave, birthday and bonfire party to attend, so on this occasion missed the AGM. Not that sitting there sipping a pint for a hour and a half didn't have it's attraction, but this time I thought I better accompany the better half, after all I will be missing all day tomorrow fishing our yearly ouse extravaganza! Eddie.
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Post by patterdalewilson on Nov 6, 2015 12:06:55 GMT
I agree in part to all of the above comments,the chosen date wasn't brilliant. But in reality it's unfortunately the nature of the beast in any club kind of situation the many often expect the few to do all the graft. Oh! and then moan when it goes pearshaped.
I know I'm one of the guilty and hold my hands up.
Facts of modern life I'm afraid.
Mick.
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Post by Eddie on Nov 6, 2015 12:51:05 GMT
I'm pretty sure 90% or more of Leeds members buy their books with fishing in mind and don't care by who, or how the club is run. With amalgamated clubs, delegates, unattached members and the usual committee rules and traditions it's mind boggling anyway. Unless you get a proposal in, well in advance and have enough supporters to pass it, there really isn't much point in going! But having said all that, it's a big THANKYOU! to those who take the time and trouble to run the club on our behalf, don't always agree with everything that's done, but that's beside the point. Someone has to make decisions or the club would cease to exist.
Eddie.
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Post by stevo53 on Nov 6, 2015 14:25:56 GMT
100% Exactly right dranv8 ,pointless exercise going, the top brass do what they like the members dont have a say. I am afraid thats the case pretty much everywhere you look these days those who are doing the most work expect to call the tune we get used to it or move on.
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Post by jgpark on Nov 6, 2015 15:52:01 GMT
The members should and would have a say if they got off their backsides and attended these meetings or even knew the procedure to make changes
Regards Graham
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Post by nickmac on Nov 6, 2015 16:23:01 GMT
I think a lot of the members live some distance from Leeds myself included (Scarborough) I have not done any fishing since September either through work and other things so it does have some affect on my not going. I do hope to get a couple of sessions on the bank before the new year and I will be renewing my membership as well. Its been worth the money as I have enjoyed fishing the stretches we have. So no apathy from me . Cheers
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Post by av1nbarb3l on Nov 6, 2015 16:33:14 GMT
ive been to 1 agm a few years back to try sort an issue out and it was like going into a bar full of rocky horror show characters ive been traumatised ever since
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Post by trout on Nov 6, 2015 16:51:40 GMT
Rocky horror show could it be we are all happy chappys and don't feel the need to go
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Post by northface on Nov 6, 2015 20:51:11 GMT
Probably something to do with how complicated it all is.... 10 members for a delegate then a delegate to put in a proposal....Endless meetings and Red tape etc..... I like to do a bit of manual down knotford as its local and holds a lot of nostalgia but apart from that it all seems a bit out of date.
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Post by rushy on Nov 6, 2015 21:36:32 GMT
Probably something to do with how complicated it all is.... 10 members for a delegate then a delegate to put in a proposal....Endless meetings and Red tape etc..... I like to do a bit of manual down knotford as its local and holds a lot of nostalgia but apart from that it all seems a bit out of date. It is very archaic and as you say Pete, complicated. Obviously the guys that have been officials and on the various committees for years know the procedures inside out and they do,work because they are so regimented. I've been involved as a Delegate and a committee member for two years or so,now and I am still trying to get to grips with all the Procedures. We've got a " Formation of committees " meeting coming up,soon and with the greatest respect, the last one was like some sort of Masonic Meeting I hadn't the foggiest idea what was going on and had a headache on the way home . . Could have been the Worthy though Unfortunately , I think the only alternative is a massive reform and there doesn't appear to be the enthusiasm or desire to do it. It will be interesting to see the structure of Leeds and District ASA in say ten years time . . .
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Post by caretaker on Nov 6, 2015 23:51:43 GMT
Less than 2% of members attended. Some will have been working ( me included), some live a long distance from Leeds, new members are still finding their feet and need to network with other anglers to learn more about the club. I do think that headline grabbing figures of 29 out of 1794, albeit a fact, doesn't necessarily mean that members are not interested or concerned with what is going on within the club. If there were 10% in attendance does the room have sufficient space for 179 people and the bar staff to cope ? If 50% attended you'd be faced with 897 people, so let's put it in perspective. It's not the quantity of members attending, it's the quality of reasoned debate and proposals to change things that need changing that counts. Finally, I acknowledge the time and effort required to run a committee.
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Post by jgpark on Nov 7, 2015 8:24:36 GMT
Sorry Pete, you couldn't be more wrong, up to 20 members is 2 delegates and for every 20 after that gets you an extra 1.
Any member can put a proposal to the AGM but it must be in writing and with the general secretary by the Sept delegates meeting, which is the last Thursday
Regards Graham
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