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Post by jgpark on Nov 23, 2015 22:25:01 GMT
The few are the only one's willing to do anything , other than moan of course
Graham
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Post by grayson on Nov 24, 2015 10:13:47 GMT
Sorry to say this but the Society is run in an unnecessarily complicated way. One that hasn't changed a great deal since the 1960's (or earlier). Possibly to maintain the status quo, where the influence resides in the hands of the few. BOF I am sure you are right - some clubs' rules and constitution are beyond parody , so outdated are they . The message I have worked quite hard to get through is that rules are not written in tablets of stone and if they are no longer fit for purpose then (constitutionally ) get rid of them and adopt new ones . I did that with a small local club which met monthly (for no reason apart from 'we've always done that' ) , had God knows how many sub committees which never met and stupid rules . We rewrote the rules and now meet once a year and have rules written in plain English. But change can only come from within and sometimes it involves upsetting some of the more inflexible old guard......
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Post by bof on Nov 25, 2015 19:15:39 GMT
Graham you know I try to give thought to, and offer a balanced viewpoint for any posts I put up, so please don't take my comment as committee bashing for the sake of it. However it has been many years since the structure of the Society has been relevant to modern life. We no longer have the mega firms with thousands of employees doing manual labour 5 or 6 days a week, that are desperate to get out into the fresh air with the firms angling section. Nor do we have big pubs with hundreds of regular customers that have their own angling club big enough to fill several coach loads of matchmen each weekend. Yet the Society is still organised and run like it is. It's like a great monolithic Union pyramid with lots of tiny clubs at the bottom each sending "delegates" to dry as dust regular monthly meetings, to refer stuff onwards to "Sub Committees", which in turn all send information backwards and forwards to the Main Committee etc etc etc. How about we have one club, with the minimum of Committee members, that meet say 4 times a year, and keep in contact with the membership by email? BOF
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Post by jgpark on Nov 25, 2015 19:53:51 GMT
Hi BOF
The only 'pub' club nowadays would have to be 'Wetherspoons AC'
On a serious note although you haven't got it totally right it is near enough to what happens.
About three maybe four years ago I spent a lot of time going through the whole structure of the society, rewording the constitution, restructuring the meetings.
Replace the delegates meeting with a quarterly members meeting, one of which would be the AGM, the society would be run around a management committee
consisting of reps from the sub committees, if we decided to keep sub comms, every aspect of the society would be represented including the social club etc
I took this to an all committee's meeting, called specifically called to discuss this issue, the long and short of it was no progress, felt like head against a brick wall
but following recent comments on here and personally to myself I will find time to put the paperwork together again and have another go, may as well go down fighting
for the membership
Regards
Graham
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Post by rushy on Nov 25, 2015 20:54:36 GMT
Hi Bof
As you may be aware , i also think we should move away from the " affiliated clubs " scenario and tailor the club and its constitution to suit the majority of members ie. The unaffiliated . . . ( and please bear in mind I am currently one of the affiliated )
It would be a mammoth task to reconstitute the current archaic but effective system . . . But wiortth considering. After all members would certainly feel more a part of the club if they had regular personal emails and an opportunity to attend a quarterly meeting and voice their opinions
All the best
Dave R
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Post by bof on Nov 26, 2015 22:09:20 GMT
It will never be easy Graham, and Rushy. But please keep up the effort on behalf of the club itself, which must progress or die off as an irrelevancy to modern fishing. BOF
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