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Post by rushy on Nov 11, 2015 20:35:05 GMT
Having fished the feeder on the Ouse at the weekend I noticed I was getting one or two tangles. In the good old days we used to slide the feeder up the line and put a split shot or a ledger stop on. Loop below and then a loop to loop for the hook link . . . No problem. As my terminal tackle has somewhat dwindled over the years ( no pun intended ) at the weekend I used a Drennan quick change bead as I do,for my Barbel set up. Seemed to get a lot of tangles round the bead  What's the modern day set up . . . Anyone know ? |
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Post by johnboy66 on Nov 11, 2015 22:25:42 GMT
hahaha
In the good old days we used to slide the feeder up the line and put a split shot or a ledger stop on.
I used to do this as well as I could change the length of the line between the feeder and the hook, but 30 years ago I used to go straight though with the main line.
do you place the feeder straight on the line or use a swivel with a clip on so you can interchange by feeder or lead.
some do do the loop to loop but I think its probably more for light tackle less weight on the line, I`ve started using a clip like a paperclip with a piece of tubing over it but I still like the old way it still works.
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Post by ronnie on Nov 12, 2015 8:21:34 GMT
I still use the "old" method but like Johnboy, with a clip swivel to change feeders or leads. But I never fish with a straight through line, I always use a hooklenght. I like to know where the weak link is in my terminal tackle. Then if I pull for a break, or much less often, get bust by a fish I want to know that I've left the minimum line in the water and it hasn't just broken at the weakest point on my main line which could be anywhere back to the reel.
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Post by dranv8 on Nov 12, 2015 11:08:59 GMT
I just use exactly the same set up that you showed me for barbel fishing but instead of a lead on the slider u put the feeder on and use fluorocarbon for the hook length, use it for all my feeder fishing except pellets, never had tangle
Except i use korum anti tangle bead
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Post by chrisobrien84 on Nov 12, 2015 13:11:25 GMT
What's the modern day set up . . . Anyone know ? You need to go into your local tackle shop with £50 and expect to come out with much change!
You want anti-tangle sleeves, lead clips, rubber tails, big eye swivels etc etc etc. I don't know how you 'older gentlemen' used to catch back in the day!
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Post by easyday on Nov 12, 2015 17:38:04 GMT
Hi, I have been using the matrix system as I can easily change from a method feeder to a ledger or swim feeder without having to change rods or tackle up again. There's a video on you tube under matrix fishing but not sure how to create link. Only used it on still waters but never had a tangle so worth a try.
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Post by rushy on Nov 12, 2015 22:04:59 GMT
I reckon it was my quick change bead that was too big and unbalancing the rig . . . I've found the solution . . . Don't worry about it until next June. Barbel , Pikes and Grayling don't like feeders  |
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Post by johnboy66 on Nov 13, 2015 0:07:22 GMT
What's the modern day set up . . . Anyone know ? You need to go into your local tackle shop with £50 and expect to come out with much change!
You want anti-tangle sleeves, lead clips, rubber tails, big eye swivels etc etc etc. I don't know how you 'older gentlemen' used to catch back in the day!
haha Rushy would end up buying the whole shop out lol |
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Post by patterdalewilson on Nov 13, 2015 0:37:11 GMT
Dave I think the slightly inclement weather may have had some influence on the way your set up behaved on the day.
Old skool still works,I love a straight through set up on the hemp/caster/maggot feeder for barbel all season long.
No beads, one knot job done.
Mick.
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Post by jimlad on Nov 16, 2015 18:46:01 GMT
Mine is really simple. No hooklinks etc, I slide the feeder up the line, followed by two rubber float stops (drennan grippa stops). Tie on a hook.
No knots, other than the hook, and the length between hook and feeder is easily adjustable.
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Post by rushy on Nov 16, 2015 19:00:11 GMT
Mine is really simple. No hooklinks etc, I slide the feeder up the line, followed by two rubber float stops (drennan grippa stops). Tie on a hook. No knots, other than the hook, and the length between hook and feeder is easily adjustable. Jim , I notice you specifically mention Drennan grippy stops. Are they better than the other brands ? I've got some I'm using for Pike float fishing in deep water at the moment and they are the next best thing to useless. The moment they hit a bit of resistance , mainly the end eye , they move |
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Post by jimlad on Nov 16, 2015 19:06:47 GMT
No mate, just what our tackle shop sells and they are 99p!
I use them for pike fishing as well, slide two up the line, nice and adjustable grip the line well.
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Post by dranv8 on Nov 16, 2015 19:15:25 GMT
Fox braid friendly float stops, no slide issues :-D
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Post by Eddie on Nov 16, 2015 20:53:33 GMT
First question is what are you fishing for? Because like float fishing you will use different set ups in different circumstances and for different fish types!
I tend to stick to very simple tried and trusted methods, if they worked before they will work now!
For chub I use the loop method, very good self hooking rig, the secret is to have your feeder just holding bottom.
For bream/skimmers usually with a ground bait feeder I use a simple paternoster set up, with the feeder on an eight inch length of main line tied with a water knot and the feeder attached by a loop. Hook length tied to the longer length of main line. No swivels just simple neat water knots and neither set up completely free running!
Barbel are a different story I use a safety lead clip, which is semi fixed and clip the feeder to that, but I seldom use a feeder when barbel fishing, preferring a pva bag.
Eddie.
Ps. If you don't know the loop method I can explain it, apart from a link bead on the feeder, nothing but loops to it!
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