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Post by Andy on Dec 9, 2006 23:29:56 GMT
To help Leeds DASA best serve its members, please could you take a few seconds to register your vote in our web poll. You will find the voting box at the top right of the homepage at www.leedsdasa.co.ukThanks for your participation, Andy
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Post by kevrich on Dec 10, 2006 22:02:12 GMT
Hello Andy,
Is this an indication that Leeds are considering changes to their portfolio to meet the needs of its members?
Surely you would be better served looking at rule changes that would encourage more people to join, for instance, a 10.30 PM finish would encourage many more river anglers to join and would help to compete with the York book more effectively .
Kev
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Post by Andy on Dec 11, 2006 12:18:06 GMT
Hi Kev, Not necessarily - Although Leeds DASA are constantly reviewing and updating their portfolio. Any organisation worth it's salt should be listening to the views of it's members. An interactive web poll is a great way to get the views of members who are less inclined to put their thoughts on a forum such as this. As ever, your comments on this forum are very welcome, and will always be taken on board. We will be conducting more web polls in the coming months and hope more members can become involved in the feedback they provide. Any members' suggestions for web polls will be very welcome - so perhaps finishing times may come up in a future poll Andy
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Post by Andy on Jan 15, 2007 23:07:24 GMT
The results of the poll,
Rivers 64.5% Lakes 24.2% Canals 11.3%
This is roughly in line with the current Leeds DASA portfolio of waters.
Thanks to all who took the time to respond.
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Post by dave59 on Jan 16, 2007 9:42:18 GMT
You got in before me Kev.
Andy - In conducting this poll I presume you are being pro-active in trying to cater for the needs of the current membership, while also attempting to encourage more members in the future. Can I also point out that a 10:30 pm finish time would serve exactly the same puprpose but for river anglers.
Regards
Dave
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Post by bof on Jan 17, 2007 15:03:07 GMT
Not necessarily just for river anglers. I too think that the current variable finish time is putting folk off. Particularly the folk who are not 9 to 5, 5 day a week types, but work shifts, or like Postmen / Milkmen who start really early, and are finished for mid afternoon. I am now retired, but I can well remember the frustration of finishing work, and not being able to get in a few hours on Leeds waters. Whilst at the same time, the opposite bank / nearby fishery, was run by York, who allowed 24hour a day fishing. Similar 24 hour fishing on all our waters, would be of course the ideal solution. But a reasonable compromise, of say 10.30 to 11 o clock of an evening, surely is not beyond the realms of possibility. BOF
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Post by jason on Jan 17, 2007 17:14:50 GMT
I ‘m in total agreement with the above posts, regarding the present fishing times. Surely a rethink as regards the present times could only benefit the club in terms of increased membership. 10:30pm seems a realistic time to me. I appreciate there may be some stipulations put in place by certain landowners as regards after dark fishing. But certainly not each and every one.
Jason
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Post by pecker on Jan 17, 2007 18:15:27 GMT
Credit to Andy for looking at the situation at all . It does need looking at and has done for sometime . Any organisation needs to cater for it's members if it is to move forward . 10.30pm on the rivers seems to be a good benchmark to start with and certainly gets my vote .
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Post by Snowman on Jan 17, 2007 19:38:21 GMT
Agree with all the above posts. If the club allows an after dark finish of 2230hrs 2300hrs I would be more than happy to invest in the Leeds yearbook.
Plus it will keep the wife happy fishing in the evening rather than through the day.
Snowy
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Post by herb on Jan 18, 2007 10:11:14 GMT
I'm a new Leeds member this year, it is frustrating not to be able to go fishing for a few hours after work - I'm pretty busy over the next few weekends, so it's looking like it'll be well into February before I actually use my Leeds book.
Allowing us to fish rivers until 10:30 or 11:00 would make a lot of people very happy, and I'm sure more people would stump up the cash for a Leeds book.
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Post by bof on Jan 19, 2007 10:44:21 GMT
York has a great attitude to evening fishing, or even all night. Not that I do fish all through the night, (especially at my age and in my state of health). But I enjoy having the choice within the clubs rules. BOF
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Post by robp on Jan 19, 2007 17:20:14 GMT
....My experience is that most Leeds members are leaving the bank at about the same time. ...What other local clubs with such extensive and excellent water allow fishing for more than one hour after sunset? I know of none. ....I would hope that it would be successful but I wouldn't hold my breath having seen frequent breaking of the rules during my first year. .... Most anglers are leaving the bank at around the same time as they do not have a choice when abiding by the rules! As Bof stated, York cater for the needs of their members with regard to fishing hours on a good number of venues. Hull allow night fishing on a number of waters too. Not local, but a high number of clubs further south also have a more realaxed approach to fishing hours. As for rule breaking, if you're seeing it now by daytime anglers, what impact will allowing anglers to stay after dark have? In York's case, their river stretches are by far and away the tidiest stretches I fish. The worst culprits when it comes to breaking club rules when night angling are generally the type who want to stay all night during the summer months, often lighting fires and consuming lots of lager. As the general consensus is that ofextending hours to 10:30pm or thereabouts, is not likely to appeal to these "anglers" therefore this shouldn't be a problem. Hope that makes sense Charlyfarly? I believe the whole issue here is one of choice. We live in a society where the demands of work and family restrict our free time, more so than ever before. Any society should surely do its best to provide the best choice possible for its members? Rob
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Post by stanfish on Jan 19, 2007 19:07:11 GMT
hi guys,dont get overheated on this subject,as all our riperian owners have stipulated a no nightfishing on thier leases, however we do own 2 or 3 waters that may be suitable for night fishing, but this would mean buying a night permit to fish them after dark, if all of you on the website who would be interested in night fishing let the site know and i can use this to persuade my felow trustees that this might be a good idea to try short term at the very least. as you may have guessed from my comments we have allready disscused this, give me some ammo..stan..
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Post by jason on Jan 19, 2007 21:51:51 GMT
Stan, What issues do the riparian owners have with anglers on there land after sunset. Have they ever been approached with regard to extended hours? Nightfishing as a phrase comes across to me as people fishing all night. That is not what the anglers who have posted on here are asking for. Are the land owners aware of this? A time of 10:30pm seems to be the general consensus. During the summer months this time would be very near the present finishing time as it stands at moment anyway.
Jason
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Post by robp on Jan 19, 2007 21:58:07 GMT
I'm sure that a good number of riparian landowners could be persuaded that their is no detriment to allowing a 10:30pm finish. Primarily, we aren't asking for all night fishing in the first instance, just a sensible finish time that will enable the average working man to fish after work during the week once the nights have drawn in (or on match fished stretches at a weekend once the weigh-in is completed).
Landowners might like to consider that the majority who fish after dark outside of the warmer months are amongst the most sensible of anglers, with a vested interest in protecting the quality of fishing and access rights to their chosen venue. Furthermore, with the current debate about poaching and taking of fish for consumption, such anglers provide an added degree of security to venues.
I'm also very suprised that every riparian owner has stipulated no night angling as a condition of lease, I mention this as I am aware of a couple of stretches of water controlled by other clubs where the landowner has actually offered night access, yet the clubs have declined and when questioned, denied this is the case!
Aside from this, could you please clarify why a night permit would be required for access to waters the club owns outright? I have my own thoughts on this and am not totally against a charge if the club use the added revenue for certain costs that may be associated with allowing extended access. However, if the charge is seen as a means to increase revenue only, then I would be very unlikely to bother renewing my membership.
One final point; I am not a big fan of syndication of waters for various reasons, but it is becoming increasingly likely that the lack of access to waters at times that suit the individual will see an increase in the numbers of those prepared to group together and make bids that riparian owners cannot refuse.
Seriously Stan, your fellow trustees really do need to think long and hard about this, the future of river angling on club waters lies in the clubs hands. Embrace those that care passionately about the waters they fish and there is a future for club controlled waters, if not, then I think the future looks somewhat grim.
Rob
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