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Post by rushy on Oct 4, 2014 17:12:51 GMT
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Post by gcb on Oct 4, 2014 20:25:46 GMT
Some good advice on the video about using semi barbless hooks on pike traces for deadbaits - as said it so much easier to get the hooks out then - especially for smaller pike. If you get a big un theres loads of room inside the mouth which makes it easier. For a beginner I don't agree with the spacing between the treble hooks. It says 4 inch for a 4 inch fish- i.e one in the head and one in the tail. If you do this as a beginner you are in real danger of deep hooking a pike so the bottom treble will be in the stomach! Many pikers recommend that your treble nearest the head end should be no closer than half way between the tail and head of the fish. If you use a rig with a treble in the head and one in the tail the pike will have the hooks in it's jaws as soon as it picks up the fish so you strike at the first indication - hopefully on a float! O.k if you have caught hundreds of pike but for a beginner I recommend placing your bottom treble halfway down the flank of the fish which will give you time to see action on the float wait until you see the float move off. tighten down to the fish and then give a firm strike to hopefully hook the fish in the mouth of the fish ( pike anglers club of great Britain also advise putting both trebles near the tail of the deadbait to help avoid the deep hooking of pike) Would be improved by showing the correct showing of spacing of the trebles as shown on the river dedbait rig at 3 min 10 seconds of this video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJaOBAn67Z0Also interesting that you only go through the hook eye once and don't bother pushing the wire back through the crimp like many advise. Like you I don't do those things either - the reason being I haven't ever had wire fail at the crimp if as you suggest you use the right size crimp and a good crimping tool. |
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Post by smithleback on Oct 13, 2014 21:31:23 GMT
Personally I prefer single hooks ,I make my own either 1or two hook rigs(generally for wobbling)less snag ups on riverbed and in net with a lively fish,easier to unhook as well,only use trebles on spinners,lures etc,strike hit ratio with singles just as good and I prefer to strike sooner than later(better to miss than hook deep)12inch forceps useful as well  |
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Post by Eddie on Oct 13, 2014 22:26:28 GMT
I tie my own traces too, mostly for dead baits I use just one barbless treble hook. I hook the bait in the flank 1/2 to 2/3 down from the tail and then tie the trace on at the tail with one pound nylon, rubber band or pole elastic(anything that will break away easily on striking). For wobbling traces I add a single hook that I can adjust to make the bait work.
One thing I always do when crimping up a wire trace, is twist the wire inside the crimp, it's tricky to do, but your trace is then 100% solid, not a chance of the wire slipping! It's little effort for the peace of mind, knowing you will never have a crimped wire fail.
Eddie.
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Post by gcb on Oct 17, 2014 22:02:37 GMT
I have worked with single hook rigs over the last few years including this one pictured of mine using a gun to insert tags like they put in clothes - not devised by me I may add  This rig - here connected to a smelt- hooks pike in the scissors 99% of the time and you can unhook with the same forceps you may use for chub or barbel. happy to give advice if you want to try this pike friendly rig. You can also cast soft baits like sardines all day on this rig without it coming off with reasonable casting distances. |
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