whiteacres khv.

[frim]

Koi herpes virus has been confirmed at whiteacres, anyone that has visited the complex please be carefull when visiting our venues, make sure all nets have been dryed out properly. UV light is the best way to make your nets safe.
frim

[george]

Frim you say uv light is that sun light or from a uv tube sorry to be stupid but better to ask i think

[lowtherman]

Sunlight george, as frim says if thoughly dried out there's no problem, one of fisheries biggest enemys are now the 100% waterproof stinkbags as these get taken out of car & put in garage/shed with nets wet & forgot about til next outing , please everybody dry your nets out

[frim]

Hi George,
Your always better asking mate! the boffins state that a net left outside for 10/15 mins should kill all bacterias, even on a dull cloudy day enough UV light is transfered to do the job, stinkbags are a nightmare and the water thats left in them can turn to bacteria soup "never tip the waste into a fishery". KHV is a relatively new virus so we are all still learning, maybe mud on boots or the bottom of your box could transfer the virus, some are saying birds and wildlife can cross transfer, there are no definite answers so we will have to play it by ear and a dry net policy on all carp venues i think will become the norm.
regards frim.

[smirnoff]

Whilst i totally agree with the net drying frim, and after a few times of doing it, it becomes part of your preperation.
I feel that a bit more info is needed on the subject.

As you know the net drying has been a policy of whiteacres for years......and it aint done them much good

[frim]

We do need more Andy but its all they can offer at the moment, the info is taken from the scientists at D.E.F.R.A, the problems at whiteacres could have come from one of the lakes off site but used in their festivals, no one knows and because the virus is so new there isn't any one really clued up yet .
frim

[smirnoff]

I do understand that its a new unkown issue steve, and im led to believe that it stemed from one of the outside lakes..ie gwinear....

but what worries me is..how it got there, as you probably know, upot about a year ago you had to use nets provided at gwinear( shame they didnt keep it up) but in all festivals and matches at whitacres the dry net policy was in force and yet it still spread.

Maybe it was trasfered by landing nets or even mudfeet that had been in a lake..i dont know, but i feel that we need to be as anglers really clued up on the developments of this disese and respond accordingly.

Would hate to see all the hard work done by you lads, in building a cracking local venue( which was well needed) that just gets better and better week by week, go the same way.

I personally am a bit nieve on the subject.as probably are most anglers, and any way we can help, should be transfered to us as soon as possible.

Andy

[frim]

Andy,
I've listened to fishery owners, fish farmers, and read releases and papers from university's on khv, i was involved in the reporting of the virus in Ontario Canada this year, and the truth is one group don't seem to know more than any other. Koi breeders seem to get results looking after individual expensive fish, but d.e.f.r.a are dealing with millions of carp moving around the country for anglers and containment seems the name of the game, there is no proven cure!!
The virus is a killer in it's own right, it becomes active in temps of around 18 to 24 deg , it strikes mainly when fish are under stress, spawning, overstocking etc, and because the immune system is effected secondary deceases like columnaris kill the buggers as well, only fish within a couple of days of dieing show visible signs of the problem, and a few that get away with it become carriers so when a fishery gets it there usually knackerd. P.C.R testing is the only surefire way to tell infection and that has to be done under lab conditions, so you dont know you've got it till its too late.
Some fishery owners were led to believe that because goldfish were supposed to be immune stocking of F1 hybrids would be a safe bet, Ive just read that someones found khv in goldfish so back to the drawing board eh!!
All this leads to a question and its a touchy subject-- can we believe that a multi million pound business like whiteacres didn't know they had khv at the beginning of the holiday season, it fished crap and every angler i talked to said it wasn't right, was it coincidence that they had it tested and released results at the end of the holiday season? why didn't they test? nearly every carp angler has visited at sometime and if the virus can be transfered by nets then the complex could be responsible for contamination of fisheries around the country, dont suppose being a multi million pound business had anything to do with it.
frim

[carptrainee]

I fished whiteacres mid August, did not see any evidence of any mass fish loss. There was a guy patrolling daily arond the lakes armed with a landing net and black bags. He seemed in rather good spirit and not worried at all. I did see a couple of dead fish, but nothing untowards. It may have been fishing poorly i dont know, but i caught and bettered my PB and caught well.

However i did not once get asked to produce my permit whilst fishing and other than the guy with the landing net, could see no evidence of people balifing the complex. Walking around the site and you could see that most people where leaving there nets out to dry (When it stopped raining that is).