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Post by JIMMY SILVERFISH FULLA on Jun 8, 2015 6:32:26 GMT
Catfish are In a world of there own,, Id regard them and possibly sturgeon the strongest fighting fish evan more than the mighty river barbel,,,
Last year whilst night fishing I had two cats one 31lb and the other 39lb 1 on the Friday and the big girl on the saterday,, I'll never forget the 40 minute fight on heavy carp gear THEESE things flat ended my 3.5tc rod so many times,, the Daiwa sensor held up, but my reel at the time didn't,, never heard a reel moan and groan like it,,, had to replace them after that and they wasn't cheap,,,
You put a cat from a river on 1 of your barbel rods,,. And there will be a lot less barbel anglers lol
Before I caught cats I really wanted one as everyone raved but now,,. When I hook a cat it's just a chore lol,, "oh ffs not another cat" usually the words that get used,,,
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Post by Eddie on Jun 8, 2015 8:13:01 GMT
Forget about the lines stated diameter,have a look at the Tacklebox line tests on their website.In my Barbel fishing I tend to use 2 lines,not chosen by breaking strain but by diameter. On my light set up I use a line around 0.3 and on my heavy set up a 0.35 line. Jason Can't completely forget about breaking strains, they are relevant. But I have had a look at the line tests you suggested and they explain a lot! For instance why my 10lb big game was so reliable, easily answered when you read it's true breaking strain. Daiwa sensor has a similarly under estimated b/s, which is why it seems to prove so reliable I guess. Bit of a surprise really, going up to 12lb line that might have less of b/s than 10lb of a different brand! Was well worth having a look. Eddie.
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Post by rushy on Jun 8, 2015 9:11:53 GMT
I personally don't think it will significantly affect your catch rate whether you use 10 or 12 pound mainline. It may even improve it as you will suffer less breaks through the line rubbing against snags etc. ! 12 pound Sensor for me again this year and if I have anything like the success I had last year I will be more than happy Not long now , couldn't resist a walk along the Nidd last night
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Post by jason on Jun 8, 2015 13:44:31 GMT
My post on this thread should have started with "Forget about the lines stated breaking strain" not Diameter Yes Eddie breaking strains are relevant, but not the manufacturers stated ones.Thats why I choose my line by diameter,again not the diameter stated by the manufacturers. I then choose the highest breaking strain line which is closest to my required diameter. Jason
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Post by rushy on Jun 8, 2015 14:56:56 GMT
My post on this thread should have started with "Forget about the lines stated breaking strain" not Diameter Yes Eddie breaking strains are relevant, but not the manufacturers stated ones.Thats why I choose my line by diameter,again not the diameter stated by the manufacturers. I then choose the highest breaking strain line which is closest to my required diameter. Jason So does that simply equate to the most expensive then Jason and what brand does that work out at ?
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Post by Eddie on Jun 8, 2015 15:22:14 GMT
Sensor is one of the best, 10lb and 0.31 was tested to a breaking strain of 14.63lb and dia. of 0.30. 12lb and 0.33, tested to 16.5lb and dia. of 0.32. At the price looks pretty good really!
Eddie.
Ps. That was the brown version, the clear line was even slightly better!!
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Post by jason on Jun 8, 2015 16:04:59 GMT
Not the most expensive but not the cheapest either.For the last 3 or 4 seasons I've been using Ultima power carp clear,RRP is 17.99 but if you shop around you will get it a tad cheaper.
Lighter set up (small hooks, for maggot etc) 12b actual BS 17.5lb diameter 0.31 Heavy set up 14lb actual BS 19.63lb diameter 0.34
If you compare diameters to a couple of other lines mentioned in this thread
(10lb)0.3 sensor BS 14.63lb (12lb) 0.32 sensor BS 16.5lb (15lb) 0.36 sensor BS 17.63lb
(12lb) 0.31 syncro xt BS 15.75lb (15lb) 0.35 syncro xt BS 21.75lb
The15lb Esp syncro xt performs better in tests than the Ultima, but when I was in the market for a heavier line I was already using the Ultima in 12lb so had full confidence (If I'm honest the most important Factor in all this) in the 14lb Ultima.But after listening to the recommendations on here I think I may try out the Syncro in 15b.
Jason
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Post by smithleback on Jun 8, 2015 20:54:26 GMT
sensor for me,good tough and reliable,remember its what a line will snap at with a knot in it thats important{knots weaken line,best check it with a hook on the end,tells you when the lines kaput}
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Post by jason on Jun 8, 2015 21:24:01 GMT
The actual breaking strains quoted above were all tested with a five turn grinner knot.But it also states some lines may perform better with alternative knots.
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Post by Eddie on Jun 8, 2015 21:40:19 GMT
The actual breaking strains quoted above were all tested with a five turn grinner knot.But it also states some lines may perform better with alternative knots. And they are independent tests, so not linked to manufacture's claims. They make a good starting reference when choosing a new line, but as most know already sensors a good inexpensive line and the tests tend to show this, it's very close to the best line (test result wise), but has so many recommendations by users, that's why I'm going to use it this season, tried an all singing and dancing mono last season and was disappointed, will go with the tried and tested workhorse this time. Thanks everyone for your input, it's been an interesting thread, mostly!lol. Eddie.
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Post by JIMMY SILVERFISH FULLA on Jun 9, 2015 6:36:22 GMT
Eddie I know a lot of carp angler inc me that go out but upto £600-£700 reels and rods,,
Then whack senser on lol,,, speaks volumes to me does that pal,,,
I remember once fishing on river with 4lb senser,,, and got a snag opposite bank,, pulled for a break and it snapped the bail arm on my reel lol and bright half the opposite banks tree with it ha ha ha,,,
Used to fish 4lb senser on all commercials on the quiver tip,, was like spiders silk just could not believe how strong it was,, often banking 15lbs on It,,, considering the amount of time I go too,. It's certainly a durable line,..
Jimmy
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Post by Eddie on Jun 13, 2015 18:06:43 GMT
Well I have filled the spools with 12lb sensor, first impressions are it feels like a nice line. It's a bit thicker than my last line, but knotting and suppleness wise very good, no kinking up! Just have to see how the season pans out, but I am not anticipating any problems.
Eddie.
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Post by rushy on Jun 14, 2015 18:30:05 GMT
Oh and another tip . . . Don't leave it until the last minute to respool your reels . . You might get an exploding spool of line Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh
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Post by ianmc on Jul 10, 2015 11:45:02 GMT
I've been using hyper sensor for a month now for barbel and after using it for chub in the winter with no problems. i have found it not very good its says it has hyper abrasion resistance, hyper strong with hyper knot strength... i found it lacking all so it's back to big game line for me.
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Post by Eddie on Jul 11, 2015 16:43:22 GMT
Same thing with the 12lb main line I used last season. High knot strength, high abrasion resistance and low diameter, only problem it wasn't any of those things. Rushy knows, he used my spare reel( after breaking 2 of his)loaded with said line and it cost him a fish! But I have to say so far with the standard Daiwa Sensor, it's proving to be an excellent line. I have had big barbel out of snags and the line has had a real roughing up, but didn't break, so its a thumbs up from me!
Eddie.
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