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Post by stevo53 on Oct 5, 2015 14:35:51 GMT
Have you put the Barbel gear away then ? Must admit I'm tempted to get the 7 pound line out and the tip rod. Sitting behind the old Barbel rod with bites few and far between doesn't seem very appealing Looking forward to a proper Chub session with the left overs of Ian McBarbels stinky paste Also Got myself a nice Greys Bewick centre pin which is already loaded with 3 pound line in anticipation of my special passion of wading in the middle of a winters river catching Grayling . . . Fishings almost 12 months a year now Dave did you look at any other pins before going for the Bewick the okumas for instance, they seem to get very good reviews although the Greys do seem a bargain price I think I might go for the ikonix although the Greys might be easier to sell on If the birds nests are a little to frequent although the okuma Sheffield Is also tempting decisions decisions Watching a few on Evilbay at the moment theres also the TFG to consider , I want one with a reliable interface thingy though Just read a post that says the Greys Is a "truepin" as opposed to a bearing type does this have a bearing on how they perform
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Post by rushy on Oct 5, 2015 14:59:58 GMT
Have you put the Barbel gear away then ? Must admit I'm tempted to get the 7 pound line out and the tip rod. Sitting behind the old Barbel rod with bites few and far between doesn't seem very appealing Looking forward to a proper Chub session with the left overs of Ian McBarbels stinky paste Also Got myself a nice Greys Bewick centre pin which is already loaded with 3 pound line in anticipation of my special passion of wading in the middle of a winters river catching Grayling . . . Fishings almost 12 months a year now Dave did you look at any other pins before going for the Bewick the okumas for instance, they seem to get very good reviews although the Greys do seem a bargain price I think I might go for the ikonix although the Greys might be easier to sell on If the birds nests are a little to frequent although the okuma Sheffield Is also tempting decisions decisions Watching a few on Evilbay at the moment theres also the TFG to consider , I want one with a reliable interface thingy though Just read a post that says the Greys Is a "truepin" as opposed to a bearing type does this have a bearing on how they perform Steve I bought mine off a dodgy mate of mine so there was not really a lot of thought went into it !! All I did was spin it and it seemed to be the business so that was good enough for me. It will be getting a Grayling outing before long so i will let you now how it performs. The other predicament I have is which way to have the line coming off . . top or bottom ? I've always had it coming off the bottom which seems better for "batting it in " but you do off course have the extra length of line as this is the hypoteneuse of the "triangle created " rather than the adjacent .............. or is it the opposite ............ anyway, whatever, you have more line inbetween the reel and the first eye when it comes off the bottom so I'm going to try it coming off the top. Hope I remember when "batting in " or I could have a right birds nest within a few casts
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Post by patterdalewilson on Oct 5, 2015 16:44:50 GMT
Line off the top Dave, unless you're going for the Wallis cast (potential for big birdsnest). Let me know how the bewick shapes up it's on my short list to go with my other 4 pins although why I need another I don't know. Mick.
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Post by stevo53 on Oct 5, 2015 19:56:41 GMT
Dave after yet more checking of reviews I am pretty sure you have chosen well, some very good reviews Indeed and for your chosen use of the reel the lightness factor seems very important. The question Is when are we going to get the "Rushy live" test report although I am sure you will be chomping at the bit to get out there and put It through Its paces maybe a bobble TV job In the offing. The cheaper reels like the Iconix seem to be prone to ratchet "interface thingy" problems but for less than £40 and as an intro to fishing the pin they as you say must be worth a punt. So bearing In mind you have Iconix experience and are an experienced pin trotter your input Is eagerly anticipated with regard to the Greys Bewicks performance review.
Happy trotting
Stevo
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Post by Eddie on Oct 5, 2015 20:43:40 GMT
Why fish with the line coming from the top of the reel? True it is slightly less distance to the first ring, but only 15mm or so. The fact that you would then be winding the reel what would feel to be backwards to gain line must feel quite odd! I fish mine traditionally line from the bottom.
Ikonix reels are strong, smooth and do the job, you can pick one up for £35 only drawback, if it is one, is that the tolerance's of the engineering are not as precise as some more expensive reels. Check the gap between the back plate and the spool, very fine on some more expensive reels and a bit larger on the less so. This is the place you really don't want your line to tangle! So could be worth considering, but when talking £200/£300 compared to £30/£40 what's in the odd half a millimeter? I have an old Leeds pin and an ikonix, the old boy for the delicate stuff, the new fella for heavy lines.
Eddie.
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Post by jimlad on Oct 5, 2015 22:47:05 GMT
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Post by stevo53 on Oct 6, 2015 1:08:33 GMT
Why fish with the line coming from the top of the reel? True it is slightly less distance to the first ring, but only 15mm or so. The fact that you would then be winding the reel what would feel to be backwards to gain line must feel quite odd! I fish mine traditionally line from the bottom. Ikonix reels are strong, smooth and do the job, you can pick one up for £35 only drawback, if it is one, is that the tolerance's of the engineering are not as precise as some more expensive reels. Check the gap between the back plate and the spool, very fine on some more expensive reels and a bit larger on the less so. This is the place you really don't want your line to tangle! So could be worth considering, but when talking £200/£300 compared to £30/£40 what's in the odd half a millimeter? I have an old Leeds pin and an ikonix, the old boy for the delicate stuff, the new fella for heavy lines. Eddie. It would seem there are some very good and hugely experienced anglers who are advocating line coming off the top with the pin and others who say from the bottom. Its got to be down to personal preference, It would seem to be that simple I am sure though that anyone who has perfected either method would possibly find It quite difficult to change. I have become very keen to try trotting with a centre pin reel mainly from reading stuff on here and online generally, having not used a pin for over 35 years I will have the advantage of having not developed a preference for either style. If my failing memory serves me well all those years ago I fished with the line coming off the bottom I also fed the the line between my thumb and first finger much the same as I do currently using my closed face Abu reels. This method of trotting would possibly be considered to be totally wrong and thinking about It I might agree with that view but It still works for me to this day and I have never felt at a disadvantage whilst employing It. Although I have to say that the faster the flow the more difficult my method of "feeding " the line becomes, maybe thats where the pin comes into Its own, I may find I have a problem allowing a centre pin reel to take line for me using a finger as a brake again "old habits" may die hard. I am looking forward to experimenting with variations on this method In the future, It could possibly be a complete disaster but thats all part of the fun of angling trying new methods and finding out what works best. It will be very interesting to hear how Dave gets on with a new reel and the line coming off the top If thats the way he decides to go, theres a lot of food for thought for all of us. I also read somewhere that In someones opinion that In all of Dave Harrells River Fest matches It was unlikely that anyone had won even a single section using a centre pin reel, this may or may not be true. Of course that could possibly cast doubts on the much used phrase "you cannot beat a centre pin for trotting" again Its a matter of opinion, possibly using the pin Is more of a cult thing gaining satisfaction In a more traditional approach rather than what puts more fish Into a keepnet who knows? And before anyone says what am I doing posting this rubbish at this time of morning I cannot sleep becauce of a bad back so need to amuse myself somehow Stevo
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Post by nige_LS7 on Oct 6, 2015 22:54:55 GMT
It's still barbel season for me, especially in mild spells after rain like yesterday, today and tomorrow. I've been after my first real urban Leeds barbel and finally had one in the net today ... just a pity it wasn't on my own rod, but as ghillie for a lad who came and installed himself a few yards away from me. Saw him catch a couple and lose one ... ah well at least I know where they feed now, and that's about 20 yards upstream and 60 yards downstream from the spot I've been concentrating on for 4 sessions now and had only chub... And at least I showed him how to look after them properly. He was one of those (like I've seen on some youtube videos) who thinks it doesn't matter which way up the fish is if it's 'resting in the net'
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Post by Eddie on Oct 6, 2015 23:04:52 GMT
It's still barbel season for me, especially in mild spells after rain like yesterday, today and tomorrow. I've been after my first real urban Leeds barbel and finally had one in the net today ... just a pity it wasn't on my own rod, but as ghillie for a lad who came and installed himself a few yards away from me. Saw him catch a couple and lose one ... ah well at least I know where they feed now, and that's about 20 yards upstream and 60 yards downstream from the spot I've been concentrating on for 4 sessions now and had only chub... And at least I showed him how to look after them properly. You live and learn nige, but in your profession you'll already know that. What about our November forum outing, are you going to make one in? Eddie.
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Post by rushy on Oct 7, 2015 12:30:46 GMT
Mmmmmmmm ..... 2 tins of Garlic Spam left and still got 8 kilo of hemp. A nice bit of rain , not too cold , forecast to be a reasonable day tomorrow ............. Looks like a tin of Garlic Spam is going to get grated into a couple of pints of hemp and I'm heading river bound with the Barbel rod ........... the centrepin and stickfloat can wait a week
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Post by caretaker on Oct 7, 2015 12:35:17 GMT
Dave you're a dedicated angler that's for sure and the only man I know that has more time off work than Father Christmas !! Good luck, will wait for the photos of the catches to follow.
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Post by rushy on Oct 8, 2015 7:55:25 GMT
Wow . . . 3 foot of extra water in last night but running off now A quick vacuum round the living room just to make an impression then it's river bound
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Post by johnboy66 on Oct 8, 2015 13:34:57 GMT
Wow . . . 3 foot of extra water in last night but running off now A quick vacuum round the living room just to make an impression then it's river bound 3ft that's impressive!!!
going this Saturday but don't know where to go yet, the amount of places I want to try is just going round and round in my head any suggestions on a postcard pleases.
1 place I did have in mined was the Wharf maybe ullaskelf not been in 20 years, what`s it like in the village area without walking to far. meanly after Chub or an unexpected Barbel, or would it be worth while going down to the Aire at Thwaite Mill for a mixed bag not been at all before.
JB.
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Post by patterdalewilson on Oct 8, 2015 13:57:02 GMT
The world's your oyster jb,but don't go to thwaites mill alone.
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Post by rushy on Oct 8, 2015 20:15:58 GMT
The world's your oyster jb,but don't go to thwaites mill alone. It's a shame that it's " not safe " on your own down at thwaites because I understand it's fishing well and there are reports of plenty of fish and some half decent Barbel coming out. I do call in now and again when I'm down that way and the last time I went one of the older members was fishing the pin and getting a fish a chuck , including a nice Barbel,of about 4 pound . . All on pound and a half bottom !!
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