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PB
Aug 16, 2007 18:05:54 GMT
Post by stanfish on Aug 16, 2007 18:05:54 GMT
well done charley,3 doubles in one day,must have been on the swale,was it one of our waters?.stan..
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PB
Aug 20, 2007 18:35:45 GMT
Post by stanfish on Aug 20, 2007 18:35:45 GMT
thank charley,3 doubles in one day ,must be a record for yorkshire,your a proper barbel wizzard.stan..
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PB
Aug 21, 2007 11:28:47 GMT
Post by leonvdodd on Aug 21, 2007 11:28:47 GMT
would be nice if could share your knowledge I've only had three all season and not one over six yet , still trying though
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PB
Aug 21, 2007 11:47:00 GMT
Post by jmallett on Aug 21, 2007 11:47:00 GMT
I'm sure that if I had 3 doubles like Charlyfarly did I would keep it very quiet as to where I caught them.
Folk don't want to give such info away Leon so you'll be lucky if you ever find out.
The best way is to get out there yourself and find some fish that no-one else knows about. Not easy but I have spent the last 3 years getting to know the rivers a lot better.
Isn't it far more rewarding to locate and catch the fish yourself, rather than to have some bloke tell you where he caught them so you can just take all the hard work out?
My thoughts anyway.
Julian
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Aug 21, 2007 12:14:47 GMT
Post by leonvdodd on Aug 21, 2007 12:14:47 GMT
I agree with you Julian, no harm in asking but you are right it will be much more satisfying when i catch fish i have located myself
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PB
Aug 26, 2007 16:22:17 GMT
Post by nightline on Aug 26, 2007 16:22:17 GMT
This is a marvellous achievement. In fact there have only been three previous occasions when Yorkshire anglers have caught two double figure Barbel in the same session, and only on one of those sessions were the fish taken from the same swim. Once on the Swale, witnessed and photographed by myself, in that instance they were different fish. The other two were from the Derwent and Wharfe respectively both anglers capturing the same fish twice despite having moved considerable distance .
I would love to see the photos, have you thought of posting them anywhere? I don't know whether this forum has that facility.
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Aug 26, 2007 16:42:47 GMT
Post by Andy on Aug 26, 2007 16:42:47 GMT
If you send the photos to news@leedsdasa.co.uk I'll post them on the forum, and if you can send a few words, eg. bait, tackle, tactics etc I can post it as a news article on the main website too!.
Andy
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Aug 26, 2007 17:57:04 GMT
Post by jason on Aug 26, 2007 17:57:04 GMT
nightline you have a PM.
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Aug 27, 2007 10:05:59 GMT
Post by nightline on Aug 27, 2007 10:05:59 GMT
Thank you I will look out for them. Yes it is quite an achievement. I know things have moved on a pace in recent years but it was not too long ago that keen barbel anglers would be aware of maybe 80% of the doubles caught in the county as the fraternity was that small and the availablilty of such big fish was confined to just a few rivers.
I know how bizarre that sounds but twenty years ago the only rivers regarded as viable for doubles were the Ouse and Derwent with an outside chance from the Swale, and it was always felt you needed to be under medical supervision if you campaigned on the Derwent as it was so hard. A total of five fish a season was not unusual!
We have had six recognised rivers for over ten years where doubles could be targetted but now there are at least four other Yorkshire Rivers that are producing them which is why I have always felt Yorkshire Barbel fishing to be the best in the country; there is still so much unknown unlike much of the Barbel fishing in the south.
Of course it may be possible that there have been others who have netted two doubles in a session but three is a colossal landmark still.
Congratulations.
Nightline
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Aug 27, 2007 12:19:59 GMT
Post by nightline on Aug 27, 2007 12:19:59 GMT
Andy is there already a gallery of photos on the site or will this be something new.
Nightline
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Aug 27, 2007 14:28:11 GMT
Post by nightline on Aug 27, 2007 14:28:11 GMT
I am one of the few Barbel anglers I know who don't use pellets although I don't doubt their effectiveness. There are those who would not believe the strength of line you are occasionally using but I have to say that in the short time you have been coarse fishing you are obviously doing it right and the fishing in flooded rivers concept is still beyond most people that have been coarse fishing for thirty or forty years despite the many articles written on the subject. In fact I have friends who claim to be desperate to catch a double or just any Barbel but they have exasperated me early this season with their constant moans about the rivers being wrecked, when conditions were perfect on many more occasions than is usually the case early in the season.
Re heavy line, I have used the same brand of braided mainline for 12 years which is 22lb knot strength and although I rarely fish the Swale these days it is what's required on that river and most other Ouse tributaries if you are targetting big barbel. I catch plenty and never lose fish other than poor hook holds, my captures are landed and returned very quickly.
As your knowledge increases the closer you will be fishing to under water roots, pilings,and snags. Many people express critiscism for such heavy tactics but they are wrong, they simply don't know and yet they are often the same people who bemoan the fact that they have never caught such specimens as yours. I retired nine years ago and can fish whenever I want. I target many species but my main motivation is to capture doubles from as many Yorkshire rivers as possible, I have one pal who overtook me last years and has now had them from six rivers.
Do you still get out with the fly rod? I was up above Reeth at the top of the Swale on Thursday, had a magic day, apart from ignorant dog walkers for whom I was invisible. The Trout are larger than might be expected. I don't mean enormous but 1lb fish are not unusual.
I hope your season continues to be successful.
Nightline
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Aug 27, 2007 17:27:32 GMT
Post by Andy on Aug 27, 2007 17:27:32 GMT
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Aug 27, 2007 17:32:48 GMT
Post by Andy on Aug 27, 2007 17:32:48 GMT
Andy is there already a gallery of photos on the site or will this be something new. Nightline Hi Nightline, I was thinking of posting it as a news article but a gallery sounds like a good idea - I'll post the suggestion on the "What do you think?" board. Andy
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Aug 28, 2007 9:36:36 GMT
Post by nightline on Aug 28, 2007 9:36:36 GMT
Great photos apart from the decapitation thanks for that. Although someone has sent me a PM re a capture of four doubles in one session taken in a match on the Ure 4 years ago, weighing a total 42lb? . Re Middleham Trout I use to fish there with the fly rod in the trout season though the best day I had there was spinning, it would be 15 years ago . The river was well up as I'd suspected, we'd had a lot of rain. As it's fifty miles travel I'd taken a little spinning rod with me as well as the fly tackle. I had a great days fishing in the Horseshoe. The best Grayling fishing I have found is in the deep water immediately upstream of the bridge but I have enjoyed my fishing downstream just as much on the fly , fewer fish but a nice walk. I have my own fishing further downstream, still at Middleham which is very hard for Trout as there are no shallows but I have caught Barbel to 8lb11oz, though there are very few. Have you thought of the Leeds stretch for Barbel. It is a brilliant stretch considering how far up the river it is, the upper limit for Barbel being just up at Redmire. Though it is the old story, it is fished , bait is going in which is the key, just luck at the transformation that has happened to the Barbel fishing at Thornton Bridge now Bradford No1aa have the Length .
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Aug 28, 2007 19:47:21 GMT
Post by nightline on Aug 28, 2007 19:47:21 GMT
The four barbel were caught in a match so they would have been retained until weighed.
Re float fishing, If you can fish a team of North country wet flies you can fish a stick, Its not identical but the principal of searching through the water is the same, with the added advantage of being able to feed whilst doing so. I feel sorry for you with the Otter problem, Their release was undertaken without any consultation with angling. Of course I would not advocate you harming a protected species but they do not like dogs they are the Otters mortal enemy. Perhaps you could encouarge the animal to become someone elses problem, though I suspect the mere suggestion might get me in bother?
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