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Post by gedthespread on Apr 9, 2008 21:54:37 GMT
charging people to nightfish is a concept dreamt up to extract additional funds from people like myself who were told,upon leeds taking over my local water, that nightfishing was to be banned,had to come up with a convincing argument to allow it to continue.Its success has been applied to knotford and catterick and is a good moneyspinnner for the club,however the price has increased from £20 to £40 in no time at all,and although i fancy a change and might be tempted to try the odd night on other leeds waters,i've no intention of paying another £40 to do so,the club is in effect discouraging me to fish its other night waters.Perhaps we should ask members who pike fish or those who like to fish the pole if they would like to pay an extra £40 each year,that might put things in perspective.Its normal for some people to night fish and its not fair to impose a 'tax' on nightfishing same as it woulnt be fair to tax people who use keepnets,or pole anglers.At one time,when you got membership of a club,you got a years fishing ontheir waters 'any method'.If you wanted to stay out all night and mess about with strange baits and methods,then that was up to you,it didnt cost extra like it does now.As usual,its the paying members who stick to the rules and pay the money,its close season on the rivers,but i bet theres a few fishing on the swale this weekend,dont lets turn a blind eye when it really matters,and impose rules when it doesnt.Its whats right,not who's right.
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allen
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Post by allen on Jun 2, 2008 19:46:23 GMT
I work as a milkman 6 nights a week so why don't they charge a fiver for members for a nights fishing seeing as it wouldn't be worth me buying a night permit as i wouldn't have the time to night fish regularly.
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Post by bof on Jun 2, 2008 23:30:03 GMT
There are plenty of places to pay a fee to fish overnight, thank goodness Allen. They may not be a fiver, but they're a whole lot cheaper than a normal yearbook plus a night permit if you are only going to be able to fish the odd night. But I am with Ged in being against any form of extra fee to be able to fish when you want. To my mind you are either a member of your club, or you are not a member. There shouldnt be an extra fee for using a pole, or a fly rod, or fishing before 5am / after 10pm,(whenever). Some folk work shifts, or just unsociable hours, and if you want to fish before or after work you have to face the fact that clubs like Leeds do not encourage your membership, and never have. Can you imagine the row if the club decided to charge an extra "mid-day permit fee", if you wished to fish between 9.30am and 4pm ? BOF
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Post by frim on Jun 3, 2008 10:34:49 GMT
bof, Stan and myself have both posted quite a few times, that the night fishing rule has been there years and could do with a coat of looking at, but it's up to the members that want the rule changing to do it. No one person has the power to change a rule it can only be done at a A.G.M. We have had posts from the opening of this site (18months) about nightfishing but not one of them turned up and tried to change it!! there has been a lot of changes at the society since stan, the new trustees, and committee members took over, but sometimes others have to do there share and help themselves. frim
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Post by JMallett as guest on Jun 3, 2008 15:45:31 GMT
I think Frim is largely right here BOF, I agree with you in that there should be no extra charge, for instance I have Richmond AS yearbook as you know, and they don't charge any extra for night fishing the river or some of the ponds. Other venues are closed as are some sections of river but thats due to landowners.
If we want a stab at changing this rule then I suppose the only way is for us to turn up in numbers and vote on the issue. Look what happened at the Bradford No.1 AGM, Dan proposed that night fishing be allowed on rivers and lakes and whilst the full motion did not get passed in the end, at least there were enough members to vote and night fishing is now allowed on Knotford and Kirklees.
Power of the people! I must find the time to attend the AGM.
Julian
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allen
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Post by allen on Jun 3, 2008 18:59:54 GMT
when is the agm and who else would be willing to go?
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sel
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Post by sel on Jun 3, 2008 20:02:06 GMT
you go on about not paying for night fishing and yes night fishing is now allowed on some Bradford no1 lakes but only kirklees lagoon 20 permits only and knotford knook fishery 50 permits only, these cost £50.00 each plus you must be in receipt of a second rod permit which cost £14.00. If you advocate going to change rules at AGM does that mean you wish to pay for a second rod permit or would you be increasing the cost of a Leeds night permit
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Post by JMallett as guest on Jun 3, 2008 22:03:55 GMT
I said ithe vote was only a partial success, in my mind having to pay for the extra permit now that night fishing is allowed on those venues is wrong but thats my opinion. I was making a point that if you actually make the effort to turn up and vote on something seriously then you have a greater chance of success. I have seen it before where ideas are put forward and narrowly denied because of one or two missing votes. Some stuffy old rules remain that way. I am guilty myself of non-attendance at meetings. Julian
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bof
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Post by bof on Jun 5, 2008 17:40:12 GMT
I agree with the idea of changing the rule at the AGM Frim, and the effort needed from those folk that want the change. But what I disagree with, is the principle that clubs charge extra fees to some members over others. Loads of clubs do it, but to me its wrong. Going back to changing the rules, how many folk attend the AGM on the average year? BOF
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Post by fergo on Apr 23, 2009 16:06:32 GMT
nite fishing should be allowed on all rivers and ponds lakes. the reason i think is this. fish theft with an increasing number of foreighners who catch for the table although ive never thought of barbel and chips or chub and salad,its a known fact they do eat carp and plenty of them. vandalism having members there is a good way on ponds and rivers making sure people stick to the rules if they dont report them. more people on all fisheries is a good thing thats my view good strocked rivers and lakes promote people to go fishing hence less theft less vandalism unless its the members who are doing it. away of finding out if people are members or not is a simple some waters have a pay box registration into these boxes car reg aswell as your membership number is all it takes.if you want to make money to do this you put a price on it i dont mind paying extra to fish a couple of times a year or you book and pay in advance at membership office so they know who is there its a thought but for every good thought there are probably and argument against. watch this and tell me is these an argument against
please no kids to watch this fish is still alive please no kids to watch or if your sqeemish 18 rated
pretty gross dont you think
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Post by miller101 on Apr 23, 2009 16:53:35 GMT
That is sick. No offence but any chance you could remve that?
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fergo
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Post by fergo on Apr 23, 2009 22:45:50 GMT
That is sick. No offence but any chance you could remve that? i will remove just give a few people the oportunity to see it just to see what i mean just a couple of days ok
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Post by northpole on May 1, 2009 17:34:37 GMT
The whole discussion about nightfishing is irrelevant for most waters if landowners won't give permission. Could we not have those advocating access after dusk discussing the issue with the landowners to canvas their opinion? There may have to be different rules for each venue depending on location/parking/noise issues etc but without a forum for discussion that involves all interested parties, it will be difficult to make progress on the topic.
northpole
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Post by swale bagger on May 2, 2009 0:09:32 GMT
The whole discussion about nightfishing is irrelevant for most waters if landowners won't give permission. Could we not have those advocating access after dusk discussing the issue with the landowners to canvas their opinion? There may have to be different rules for each venue depending on location/parking/noise issues etc but without a forum for discussion that involves all interested parties, it will be difficult to make progress on the topic. northpole whats the point it aint gonna happen landowners are either greedy wanting more dosh or the club is full of old farts who live in the dark ages
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Post by northpole on May 4, 2009 15:35:38 GMT
Never say never! Until all avenues have been gone down, it remains a possibility. One of the problems is gathering members views. Perhaps a letter/survey could be sent out with the 2010/11 Yearbooks (no extra postage cost incurred) as not enough members use the website. That would certainly generate a response from those with an interest. In the mean time a group of experienced anglers needs to sit down and thrash out the pros and cons.
northpole
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