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Post by equalizer on Apr 1, 2009 12:07:10 GMT
its all right saying what they put in over years i agree,its what they have taken out ,as someone said £120,000 of your money from the sale of one beautifull venue into someone elses puddles without consulting members,why did they not answer this or respond to it when mentioned before by someone who said he was told by an official of amalgamation they should have the decency to respond . if you got nothing to hide then stop being so secrative and tell the people straight away where their money is going they have the right to know i will ask you straight IS IT TRUE ABOUT THIS £120,000 to buy a 50% share in kippax park and is it your intention to make it your HQ if not then i bow down to you,dont tell us its false then do it as this would prove it was your intention all along and members then would know they had been dueped. just remember i known them a long long time and from old
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Post by dan on Apr 1, 2009 12:37:35 GMT
Equaliser, does your employer tell you where they are spending their money, or on what, do they even console you? why would they? If Leeds have sold Catterick and made a reasonable amount of money, surely putting it back into the club to improve the fishing for everyone is the right thing to do. They are after all running a business
Maybe not everyone will fish Kippax, I won't but that's my choice, the same as it is for everyone else...
If you've got some "dirt" to dish, stop beating round the bush and logging on as a "guest" and just come straight out with it. You're beginning to bore me and a lot of other people...
Have you not got anything better to do with your time?...
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Post by mark on Apr 1, 2009 13:23:13 GMT
Dan,
Of course an employer wont tell you what they are spending their money on but Leeds is a public club where the public pay for membership. Therefore, members have the right to know where this money is to be spent and what it has been spent on, hence the yearly financial reports. They are available upon request from the club, although I feel you should receive one as a matter of course when you join the club, it would then give you an idea as to where your money is likely to be spent.
Equalizer has asked a simple question that once again has avoided an answer by a club official. It's things like this that makes people turn on the club, how hard is it to answer? Is £120,000 from the sale of Catterick going to be used to purchase a 50% share in Kippax Park? Yes or no? If the answer is yes it just goes to show what the clubs intentions were from the outset and goes further to strenthern the fact that the club can not be trusted in anything they say.
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Post by equalizer on Apr 1, 2009 15:40:18 GMT
the paid up members are the emloyers ,the amalgamation is the employee because they are fully paid up members they have the right to know where thier money goes. i have been a fully paid up member for well over 20 years and go in club very regular ,you dan i am lead to believe have only been a member 2 mins . like i said if its all false then say so and i will bow down but i think as well as alot of other long standing members it is true but they just wont answer. as members and the employers as such we have the right to know ,all we ask is be 100% honest with the people who keep the club going. IS IT TRUE
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Post by dan on Apr 1, 2009 16:07:58 GMT
"you dan i am lead to believe have only been a member 2 mins"
Whether this is true or not, does this really have any bearing? am I not entitled to an opinion now?
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Post by equalizer on Apr 1, 2009 16:23:13 GMT
sorry dan i didnt mean it that way ,what i meant is people who have been members for years like all paid up members have the right to know where THEIR money is to be spent .with respect dan they still havnt had the decency to answer what is now on a very lot of members minds and that is ,is it true or what we ALL as members and investors have the right to know if i offended you dan then i opologise no malice intended
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Post by equalizer on Apr 2, 2009 11:22:46 GMT
charlyfarly . check my posts and you will see i have not swore or been foul mouthed or threatend any one, just look . i have been straight with my remarks and apologised where i had to like i did to dan. four days have gone by since it was put on website about the £120,000 for a 50% share and still they not answered the question so i will ask again IS IT TRUE just tell the members if it is ,its not to difficult to say ,or is it. to any members i may have offended then i am honestly SORRY but i feel we have the right to a truthfull answer so come on officials give us the truth
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Post by Tiddlwink on Apr 2, 2009 12:17:26 GMT
Although the Equalizer is a bit too forward with what he says,i am inclined to agree with him . The members investment in the amalgamation by buying a yearbook should surely entitle them to be notified where there money is too be spent. I personaly think with some of the things he said, that he could be an official himself,and this is why he is probably going under an alias name. May i say though even if he is i cant blame him, what chance would he have against all the other officers they would oust him out for asking a fully valid question. In my opinion the amalgamation managment could put this to bed straight away,and that is by coming out in the open and answering the mans simple question honestly. I am sure that what we have all read from the equalizer has got us all wondering ,it would be in their best interest to tell truth,or they may be left with egg on their face. I would also like to say nobody should gang up to have a go at any one individual,which is what is happening to equalizer, for asking what is such a simple question. Thanks for reading Tiddlwink.
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Post by mark on Apr 2, 2009 13:33:10 GMT
Read into it what you will but I find the answer is in the silence from a club official/committee member. If a picture paints a thousand words then the silence says it all!! Had you asked how the fishing was in a certain venue/what the bag weights were, I feel you would've got a pretty much instant response.
If Leeds say nothing, then they can't actually lie!
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Post by equalizer on Apr 2, 2009 16:07:29 GMT
maybe if everyone who wants a truthfull answer posts the question before lets say 9.00pm friday then they may just be honest once again the question is IS £120,000 OF YEARBOOK HOLDERS SUBS GOING TO SPENT ON BUYING A 50% SHARE IN KIPPAX PARK AND IS IT YOUR INTENTION TO MAKE IT YOUR HQ we do as investors have the right to know
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Post by whogivesanutsalizer on Apr 2, 2009 19:49:24 GMT
if this was a game of cluedo then my guess is mark in the bedroom with the computer
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Post by letsallgetalong on Apr 2, 2009 20:26:40 GMT
Leeds has so many positives to offer all members, a lot is been said about the negatives. Maybe a way forward is for a official to answer the concerns of various members. Fishing is a hobby and pastime which lets you escape the bickering of every day life and escape from the misses, kids work etc. Having read through the recent posts, the sooner this issue is put to bed the better, then everyone can post about what makes them so passionate about (fishing).
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Post by mark on Apr 2, 2009 20:48:55 GMT
if this was a game of cluedo then my guess is mark in the bedroom with the computer But it's not, and you'd be wrong anyway. I appreciate however the fact you seem to hold me and my opinions with such high regard. It brings a warming glow to my heart!
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Post by frim on Apr 2, 2009 23:32:41 GMT
No silence from this committee member Mark, you know me better than that! six days ago the usual nameless!! rumors high up nameless official!! rumors 120k of money we don't have yet is to be spent on 50% of kippax, then another nameless demands to know why we haven't replied!!! You asked the question yesterday. Three people have direct contact with KP owner, I'm one of them, no deal as been discussed, no money, no part share. Anything regarding shares or finance would have to go through finance committee, trustees, then the final say by delegates, it hasn't happened. If the sale of Catterick completes the only money that has been earmarked is for the securing of owned still waters, new fences, gates, locks etc, it hasn't gone further than that. Steve
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Post by miller101 on Apr 3, 2009 12:44:17 GMT
Thanks for replying Frim Happy days, bickering over
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