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Post by johnboy66 on Feb 4, 2016 14:24:29 GMT
This is what I was trying to find out but untill Graham put those figures up I had no idea if day tickets made any money
And untill you broke it down it makes sence
Surly you only need a bailiff on match days if no day tickets which cuts costs down.
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Post by boxmuncher on Feb 4, 2016 19:46:07 GMT
Iv heard rumours of moor monkton is to be netted but no mention on where the fish are going or whos doing the netting why is this been netted is there a valued reason for this been done?
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Post by tink on Feb 4, 2016 19:55:10 GMT
Just an over stocked puddle designed to make money
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Post by andygas on Feb 4, 2016 19:58:52 GMT
there have been several posts about income from moor mokton when it was run by kevin winncup who always kept one lake free from matches for the day ticket anglers yes kevin always kept one lake match free he averaged twenty four thousand pounds a year there must be a reason why leeds cannot do the same the facts are the upper echelons of leeds have always held the pleasure anglers in very low esteem and are not prepared to share the venue .I recently questioned P ROBERTS about an old chap who had been turned away from moor monkton on three occasions he said if this old chap can only fish on a sunday tell him not to bother buying a leeds book as I said previously we are held in low esteem and yet moor monkton belongs to all leeds members I do not include G PARKS in this equation he is one of the good guys
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Post by carl1 on Feb 4, 2016 20:21:06 GMT
I went to moor monkton to fish and my key didn't work ,some one told me needed a special key,and it was a bit of a private members only ??
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Post by dranv8 on Feb 4, 2016 20:44:31 GMT
there have been several posts about income from moor mokton when it was run by kevin winncup who always kept one lake free from matches for the day ticket anglers yes kevin always kept one lake match free he averaged twenty four thousand pounds a year there must be a reason why leeds cannot do the same the facts are the upper echelons of leeds have always held the pleasure anglers in very low esteem and are not prepared to share the venue .I recently questioned P ROBERTS about an old chap who had been turned away from moor monkton on three occasions he said if this old chap can only fish on a sunday tell him not to bother buying a leeds book as I said previously we are held in low esteem and yet moor monkton belongs to all leeds members I do not include G PARKS in this equation he is one of the good guys This is absolutely atrocious and bang out of order
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Post by Eddie on Feb 4, 2016 21:08:26 GMT
Moor Monkton isn't fitted with the usual lock that Leeds members keys fit. When it's locked it means at present the venue is closed. I think we had a local guy who would open and close the pools, locking the gate for us. I don't think he does that now, hence the proposed closing time of 8.00pm, so the guys running the place can get home at a decent time. There was a list of new rules proposed, 8 am to 8 pm, 5 hour matches, luncheon meat limited to 2 pints and 50lb limit per keep net. The rest of the rules will be like kippax park. Problems, 8 till 8 is useless for for working pleasure anglers, as the venue is totally matched up at weekends. 200lbs plus match weights, 5 keep nets? Really! And if you go over 50lb a net any extra weight may be disqualified!! Now Leeds have invested a lot of money in the pools and it is important to make a return on this. To my mind a lot of the rules are counter productive and will not benefit Leeds or the venue. So what are we asking for? Lets make it clear and uncomplicated! A Leeds lock that members keys fit. Fishing from dawn till dusk. Lastly one pool exclusively for pleasure angling at all times.( personally I wouldn't see a problem if this was booked for large matches occasionally, as long as proper notice is given!
It's not asking for the world is it, just common sense, but if we have clear objectives we are more likely to get somewhere!
Eddie.
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Post by andygas on Feb 4, 2016 21:20:00 GMT
Iv heard rumours of moor monkton is to be netted but no mention on where the fish are going or whos doing the netting why is this been netted is there a valued reason for this been done? THIS WATER SHOULD BE NETTED BY LEEDS MEMBERS ONLY WITH CARP IN THE 18LB BRACKET WE ALL NEED TO KEEP TABS ON THESE VALUABLE ASSETS
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Post by johnboy66 on Feb 4, 2016 23:11:46 GMT
this saddens me that a well none club can`t sort such a simple task out for its members,
if not sorted out soon members will just not fish it. the £10 permits won`t be needed.
i`m not really a person that speaks is mined or speaks out of term but us members aren't asking for much, we pay good money to be in the club MMP is Leeds water all we want to do is fish it.
if this carries on you can forget my MMP permit for next year not worth the hassle.
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Post by leathercarp on Feb 5, 2016 13:55:03 GMT
I think I might be joining you johnboyy66. To make matters worse I had a conversation in the tackle shop yesterday and someone mentioned Leeds had paid over 200 thousand for carpvale. Thankfully its not my money as I've only joined recently but I wouldn't be best pleased if it was my money that had been spent and I can't even fish there. The conversation also supported the views on here that it was manely run by matchmen for matches and us guys who just want to go have a relaxing few hours catching a few fish don't really come into the story. Wish I'd kept my sixty five quid and joined York now
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Post by andygas on Feb 5, 2016 21:30:25 GMT
hi leathercarp yes we as leeds members all contributed and paid almost 200thousand for carpvale but its only for a select few stan and his crew are getting an electric gate to keep the pleasure angler out no after work fishing in the summer thanks to stan weekends fully booked for matches I don't know how true the rumours are about machine gun towers, armed guards ordered to shoot pleasure anglers on sight I don't think these requests have been presented to the committee yet but the upper echelon will back stan and his crew all the way nothing new there then
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Post by cabbo on Feb 7, 2016 11:54:44 GMT
hi leathercarp yes we as leeds members all contributed and paid almost 200thousand for carpvale but its only for a select few stan and his crew are getting an electric gate to keep the pleasure angler out no after work fishing in the summer thanks to stan weekends fully booked for matches I don't know how true the rumours are about machine gun towers, armed guards ordered to shoot pleasure anglers on sight I don't think these requests have been presented to the committee yet but the upper echelon will back stan and his crew all the way nothing new there then Totally agree with you mate I think Stan and his band of merry matchmen and his followers because that's what their are should hang their heads in shame voting to shut the ponds at 8pm in summer is total disgrace ,I tell you what when the 5 hrs match got brought in it soon got put back to the drawing board !! I wonder who was behind that then COME ON LEEDS GET BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD ON THE 8PM SITUATION and stopping hitting the working man who can only get 2hrs in after work !! Stan gets 6hrs because that's suits him sod the working man or pleasure Fisher ,So come on LEEDS its a club for members or have us members bought Stan and is band of merry matchmen their own complex ? Theirs a lot of hard feelings out there !! Cabbo
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Post by shaun39 on Feb 7, 2016 15:23:05 GMT
oh dear here we go again. i have mentioned on another post concerning the topcliffe hydro that the members running leeds should bow their heads in shame, graham apart, but it beggers belief that their pigg headedness rears its ugly head again, im a matchman who has fished loads of nationals in my past , but an 8 pm shut is well words fail me, maybe they have been in the job too long and lost touch with the common angler, acting like mi5 again thinking they are above the normal leeds member, shame on you again
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Post by jgpark on Feb 7, 2016 18:23:30 GMT
Hi Shaun
Thank you for the kind remarks.
The situation with the 8pm closing is not as clear as is been stated, the obvious thing to do would be to use a BWB lock as on other fisheries and let the last anglers out lock the fishery for the night, but hang on here's the problem we sell day tickets to visitors, which has previously stated brings in good income which will enable the club to do all the nessesary repair work particularly to the very insecure boardwalk, now only members are allowed to purchase BWB keys so visitors would be unable to lock up and that means having a bailiff on site to make sure this is done each night, all the bailiffs connected to the fishery live in Leeds and until we have someone very local it is only fair to them to operate a reasonable closing time which of course has a down side to the anglers wishing to use the fishery after work. The possibility of fitting an electronic automatic gate and locking system is currently being considered but this carries the danger of someone been locked in because we always must have that last cast
It is a problem that needs resolving for the majority of members and it was always going to be a problem when we purchased the fishery, a couple of local bailiffs would be a great help.
Regards
Graham
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Post by andygas on Feb 7, 2016 18:47:46 GMT
MOOR MONKTON MEMBERS ONLY LEEDS DO NOT NEED THE SALE OF DAY TICKETS CAN YOU NOT SEE THE DIVIDE STAN AND HIS CREW ARE CREATING MEMBERS ONLY IS THE ONLY WAY FORWARD OR ARE YOU JOINING THE DARK SIDE GRAHAM
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